American Taliban

[Capper Al]

What does the Taliban want?


Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.


Looks like the Taliban and the Tea Party have similar goals. Maybe that's why the Tea Padty has been called the American Taliban.

[dartman51]

What does the Taliban want?


Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.


Looks like the Taliban and the Tea Party have similar goals, at least to lefties with IQ's that wouldn't crack 50. Maybe that's why the Tea Party has been called the American Taliban by Left wing loons that have gone off their meds.

FTFY :ThmbUp:

[woodtoo]

What does Capper Al want ?

[boxcar]

What does Capper Al want ?

He's groping for his religion of pieces.

Boxcar

[Capper Al]

The truth hurts, doesn't it.

[Capper Al]

Robert Reich post on Facebook:

" What is the proper term for those who are determined to get their way by threatening to otherwise close our government or default on our nation's debts? They are not legislators because they eschew the normal processes of legislation. They are not statesmen because they are willing to sacrifice the governing institutions of our nation. They are not leaders because they cower to a fanatical minority. They have chosen instead to get their way through extortion -- holding the United States hostage to their weapons of mass economic destruction. What, then, are they? Would it be unfair to consider them traitors? "

I call them the Tea Party.

[JustRalph]

Robert Reich post on Facebook:

" What is the proper term for those who are determined to get their way by threatening to otherwise close our government or default on our nation's debts? They are not legislators because they eschew the normal processes of legislation. They are not statesmen because they are willing to sacrifice the governing institutions of our nation. They are not leaders because they cower to a fanatical minority. They have chosen instead to get their way through extortion -- holding the United States hostage to their weapons of mass economic destruction. What, then, are they? Would it be unfair to consider them traitors? "

I call them the Tea Party.

I call them Patriots............

[Clocker]

What does Capper Al want ?

Attention.

[horses4courses]

I call them Patriots............

Idiots, more like...

[Capper Al]

I call them Patriots............

Loyal to who? The Corporations and the Koch brothers. They don't have the intelligence to understand that what they are doing is not in their own best interest.

[MONEY]

Robert Reich post on Facebook:

" What is the proper term for those who are determined to get their way by threatening to otherwise close our government or default on our nation's debts? They are not legislators because they eschew the normal processes of legislation. They are not statesmen because they are willing to sacrifice the governing institutions of our nation. They are not leaders because they cower to a fanatical minority. They have chosen instead to get their way through extortion -- holding the United States hostage to their weapons of mass economic destruction. What, then, are they? Would it be unfair to consider them traitors? "

I call them the Tea Party.
So the House of Representatives votes on a bill 230 to 189. The bill gets sent to the Senate to be ratified and Harry Reid says no. How is this either the Tea Party's or the Republican"s fault. As I see it, it's Harry Reid's fault.

[Capper Al]

Attention.

Professor/woodtoo,

What I want are statesmen negotiating issues and making the best compromises for our country as they can. Neither party is all right and all wrong. That's the American way. The Tea Party are just terrorist.

[Capper Al]

So the House of Representatives votes on a bill 230 to 189. The bill gets sent to the Senate to be ratified and Harry Reid says no. How is this either the Tea Party's or the Republican"s fault. As I see it, it's Harry Reid's fault.

The budget process is not the place to renegotiate the law. It is a process for paying the bills.

[Clocker]

What I want are statesmen negotiating issues and making the best compromises for our country as they can.

You mean like Obama touring college campuses making speeches about ObamaCare last week instead of trying to do something about the government shutdown, the debt ceiling, Syria, etc.

[Tom]

Idiots, more like...


Aw opposed to idiots who have put us 17 trillion in the hole and have the balls to claim there is no more butting we can do?

Come on, are you seriously buying ht Obama lie of the week about defaulting?
A lying bastard who print money 24/7 and who would rather talk to the single most-terror enabling state on the planet that the House?

Only the Ta Party is actually listening to the American people and trying to save the country. A fact lost on your severe partisan blinders that put facts in the toilet.

I bet you even think nO-Care will improve health care in this country! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tom]

You mean like Obama touring college campuses making speeches about ObamaCare last week instead of trying to do something about the government shutdown, the debt ceiling, Syria, etc.

He is being all that he can be......a clown.
Has he EVER done anything else? He is a snake-oil community organizer. Downtown trash.

[Clocker]

Come on, are you seriously buying ht Obama lie of the week about defaulting?

We went through this discussion last time. If the government "shuts down", a lot of government employees will still be going to work every day, tax revenue will still be flowing into the government coffers, and we will still have the money to make all required debt payments and provide essential services.

[Robert Goren]

Some of the American Taliban's finest work is done at the state level. Texas's banning of online betting of horse racing is a prime example. Unable anymore to passed laws on their own, the religious right has hijacked the tea party movement to get their way. It is somewhat ironic that what started as a less government movement is now being used to get more government involvement in people's lives.

[JustRalph]

Some of the American Taliban's finest work is done at the state level. Texas's banning of online betting of horse racing is a prime example. Unable anymore to passed laws on their own, the religious right has hijacked the tea party movement to get their way. It is somewhat ironic that what started as a less government movement is now being used to get more government involvement in people's lives.

you're out of touch.............

[mostpost]

So the House of Representatives votes on a bill 230 to 189. The bill gets sent to the Senate to be ratified and Harry Reid says no. How is this either the Tea Party's or the Republican"s fault. As I see it, it's Harry Reid's fault.
I missed the part of the Constitution where its says if the House passes a stupid bill, the Senate is required to ratify it. The Senate ratifies treaties. It passes bills it agrees with.

Harry Reid said no. So did fifty three other Senators. It's called majority rules.

[mostpost]

FTFY :ThmbUp:
More like 128 and I am sure Hcap and Capper Al have a higher IQ than I do.

[BlueShoe]

Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.


The first and third points are utter nonsense, the fantasy of the left. Many members are neither evangelicals or fundamentalists, or even particularly devout. Any means possible? Find a source where the TEA party advocates armed revolution or engages in violence of any kind. Only the Left behaves in this manner. On the second point, half right. Big Government is viewed as the enemy that needs to be cut down to size by peaceful means.

[Robert Goren]

you're out of touch.............You are in denial!

[Tom]

mosite.....the same applies to the House - it is called majority rules in the PEOPLE's HOUSE.

Al must habvve time on his hands, hunkered sown afraid to walk streets of his demcrat-controlled hell0hole of a city that is more dangerous that Beruit! :lol:

And Bbby......what can you say...with a straight face. :lol:

This thread reminds me of that great quote from the past.....

nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!

[Clocker]

What does the Taliban want?




Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.
Looks like the Taliban and the Tea Party have similar goals. Maybe that's why the Tea Padty has been called the American Taliban.



Pretty close. You only got 3 wrong. To boil the tea party principles down to 3 items:


1. Small, efficient government


2. Fiscal responsibility


3. Free markets


There is no one, central tea party. There are dozens of different, independent tea party organizations in the country. Some have a religious leaning, some have none. Virtually all have the 3 principles above in common.


Thanks for playing. A horse player should know better than to beat a dead horse.

[fast4522]

Just exactly how does a grateful nation deploy its very best into harms way to get blown up or shot, or lose limbs and because the vast majority are under thirty years of age get stuck with the tab of seventeen trillion. Besides sticking it to the middle class, the young are getting a raw deal. Expect both to turn on this President and his party with a vengeance.

[HUSKER55]

our government is way too large and has tentacles in far too many things.

I wonder how much of that 17t debt is from graft and fraud.

Is a small government will limited interests a bad thing?

Is not biting off more than we can chew a bad thing? The USA needs to keep our nose out of other nations affairs.

I have a great idea for a start. Send the United Nations to Afghanistan. If world peace is going to work then the office could be anywhere. Then get the USA out of the UN. It would be interesting to see what happens.

The USA can't afford it. it is called fiscal responsibility.

[JustRalph]

You are in denial!

Religion is not why the online gambling went away in Tx. The actual tracks thought it would be good for them. What a bunch of fools.

[sam4022]

Take a look at www.thereligionofpeace.com and/or www.terror101.com for some real Taliban reality.

[Robert Goren]

Religion is not why the online gambling went away in Tx. The actual tracks thought it would be good for them. What a bunch of fools. Yeah, right! It came from the same people who gave you Texas's new law on abortion. You are just to blind to see. The race tracks don't have enough power or money to get a law passed. They don't in Texas and they don't in any other state anymore. 30 years ago, yes. 15 years ago, maybe. today, not a chance. There are only two ways to get a state law passed. One is money and the other is votes. Race tracks today don't have either. The religious right has pulled the switcheroo on you and you don't want to see it, so you don't.

[MONEY]

Yeah, right! It came from the same people who gave you Texas's new law on abortion. You are just to blind to see. The race tracks don't have enough power or money to get a law passed. They don't in Texas and they don't in any other state anymore. 30 years ago, yes. 15 years ago, maybe. today, not a chance. There are only two ways to get a state law passed. One is money and the other is votes. Race tracks today don't have either. The religious right has pulled the switcheroo on you and you don't want to see it, so you don't.
The reason Texas doesn't allow online gambling is because the Oklahoma Indian tribes and the Louisiana Casinos contribute big money to the politicians here. This assures that thousands of Texans travel to Louisiana and Oklahoma every day to gamble legally.

[fast4522]

That is because Robert Goren and folks like him will latch onto a subject and make it about religion when in fact it is not, or make it about race when its plain to see that it is not. They grasp for straws to substantiate the socialist position or need for it when in truth it is failed logic used by the desperate who feel that they fell through the cracks once so screw everyone else. Everything we are going through now in this world is because the socialist logic employed that overtax systems to the breaking point. Instead of buffering our safety nets with conservative policy we risk everyone with catastrophic breakdown, socialist logic is worse than the aids epidemic.

More Tea please.

[burnsy]

What does the Taliban want?

Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.
Looks like the Taliban and the Tea Party have similar goals. Maybe that's why the Tea Padty has been called the American Taliban.

I thought i was the only one with the "American Taliban" rant.....hell, of course i want the govt. brought down. But not by the Tea Party morons or the Liberal morons. We need good old libretarians running this joint. The Tea party is right about fiscal responsibility but thats about the only thing they are right about. Somehow we should save money but at the same time we should be "ruling" the world too??? Plus, take your stupid religious bias or prejudice and shove it up your azz. The same goes for the other end, no guns , no sweets or soda and if a mother brings cupcakes to school , its child abuse???

There are two American Talibans they are the right wing whackadoos (tea party) and the left wing whackadoos. Either one left unchecked will mean you lose something in rights. They both agree you should be spyed on.......you can't be trusted...you may be a terorist. Empty your pockets. People need a history lesson...John Locke, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington did not always agree...but they all understood one thing....the individual (the person). That liberty is based on the individual, not what everyone else thinks of said individual. What? If there is a God, is there going to be a peanut gallery behind me when i face God? Like we have here in this country? You should do this, you can't do that...because other people say so? The dumbest most anti American thing i ever heard. No, you can't be gay and get married, you can't gamble, you can't drink, you can't have a gun, you can't use drugs but heres a bottle with 100 in them....we sold those to you so if they kill you its legal...:lol: . These people think they are here on earth to do "Gods" job, they are so perfect they know whats right and whats wrong for everyone else. They better hope there is no God because when they have to stand for themselves(before God) and not for every one else....rude awakenings are to come...So you thought you were God?

[Capper Al]

Pretty close. You only got 3 wrong. To boil the tea party principles down to 3 items:


1. Small, efficient government


2. Fiscal responsibility


3. Free markets


There is no one, central tea party. There are dozens of different, independent tea party organizations in the country. Some have a religious leaning, some have none. Virtually all have the 3 principles above in common.


Thanks for playing. A horse player should know better than to beat a dead horse.

Do you actually believe the liberals are against these? An argument by absurdity suggest you believe it. Follow this professor:

1. Small, efficient government

Really, who is for inefficient gov't? Oh wait, it's the Tea Party because they are willing to bring down the gov't.
What size is small? Libs want a gov't big enough to do their job and no more.


2. Fiscal responsibility
Libs aren't Fiscally responsible? They want to pay the bills by raising taxes on the top two percent.
Oh wait again, the Tea Party is willing to destroy our financial system so the rich don't have to pay their fair share. that's responsible?


3. Free markets
The exchanges force insurance companies to compete on an apple to apple basis. This fosters a free market.
Really, you believe that companies are willing to give control for a free market? What world to you live in? And how do you believe libs are against a free market? Just absurd.

[Robert Goren]

The reason Texas doesn't allow online gambling is because the Oklahoma Indian tribes and the Louisiana Casinos contribute big money to the politicians here. This assures that thousands of Texans travel to Louisiana and Oklahoma every day to gamble legally.Like a casino cares about online betting on horses.

[burnsy]

Like a casino cares about online betting on horses.

Hes half right though, this is how it goes down. There are "money" interests that don't want it...the casinos, big bookies, Vegas, Lonestar, quarter horse racing......when you combine that with the "Bible Thumpers" you have powerful opposition. I can't sit here and bet a Football Game LEGALLY today in this country? Thats not my right?economically and personally????(open markets, Adam Smith)?? This is how you lose rights in this country...its either by the sword of "elite money" or the religious zealots.....when you combine the two....the majority or minority (everyone has rights) is screwed. Somehow i have to spell this out, maybe because i've studied political and economic science but the two sides are masters of this destruction and dare i say deception. The people still don't see it, when enough eyes open maybe there is hope. If you are a Republican or a Democrat...you might as well say you like being a slave of this corrupt system. Never meant to be, two sides is not much better than one, anyone with half a brain can figure out the "game" and the American people continue to get "played"........American Taliban

[Robert Goren]

Hes half right though, this is how it goes down. There are "money" interests that don't want it...the casinos, big bookies, Vegas, Lonestar, quarter horse racing......when you combine that with the "Bible Thumpers" you have powerful opposition. I can't sit here and bet a Football Game LEGALLY today in this country? Thats not my right?economically and personally????(open markets, Adam Smith)?? This is how you lose rights in this country...its either by the sword of "elite money" or the religious zealots.....when you combine the two....the majority or minority (everyone has rights) is screwed. Somehow i have to spell this out, maybe because i've studied political and economic science but the two sides are masters of this destruction and dare i say deception. The people still don't see it, when enough eyes open maybe there is hope. If you are a Republican or a Democrat...you might as well say you like being a slave of this corrupt system. Never meant to be, two sides is not much better than one, anyone with half a brain can figure out the "game" and the American people continue to get "played"........American TalibanYou can't bet a football game legally outside of Nevada because the two outfits that control football don't want it legal and they have the money to stop it. It may be hypocritical of the NCAA and the NFL, that is the way they want it.

[Clocker]

Libs aren't Fiscally responsible? They want to pay the bills by raising taxes on the top two percent.

Raising taxes on the top two percent wouldn't pay the bills for a week. Fiscal responsibility means not spending more than you are taking in. If you are running a huge deficit year after year, you are by definition irresponsible. A $17 trillion debt is not fiscal responsibility, especially when that number is a fairy tale and the real debt is more like $100 trillion.

And how do you believe libs are against a free market? Just absurd.

Making people buy health insurance and telling them what they have to buy is not a free market. Limiting what policies an insurance company can sell, and putting price controls on those policies is not a free market. Subsidizing firms and industries (green energy, ethanol, some crops, etc.) is not a free market. Minimum wage laws are not a free market. Forcing employers to provide health insurance is not a free market. Government regulations purposefully designed to kill the coal industry is not a free market. Government policies that reward employers for switching from full time to part time workers is not a free market.

[Capper Al]

Clocker there's any point to this dialog.

[JustRalph]

The reason Texas doesn't allow online gambling is because the Oklahoma Indian tribes and the Louisiana Casinos contribute big money to the politicians here. This assures that thousands of Texans travel to Louisiana and Oklahoma every day to gamble legally.

Be careful.........you're just as blind as I am ........... :lol:

The tracks actually thought they could divert some of those people with this law..... :bang:

[Robert Goren]

Be careful.........you're just as blind as I am ........... :lol:

The tracks actually thought they could divert some of those people with this law..... :bang:Did they really believe there is enough Texans doing it to warrant spending the amount it would take to change the law? I know track management are not the brightest bulbs, but it is hard for me to believe that even they would think there was going to be a big increase in handle by outlawing online betting. But then again , maybe the price of a Texas legislator is lot cheaper than it is Nebraska.

[dkithore]

The first and third points are utter nonsense, the fantasy of the left. Many members are neither evangelicals or fundamentalists, or even particularly devout. Any means possible? Find a source where the TEA party advocates armed revolution or engages in violence of any kind. Only the Left behaves in this manner. On the second point, half right. Big Government is viewed as the enemy that needs to be cut down to size by peaceful means.
You are right, not directly but don't they support gun ownership?

[Capper Al]

What does the Taliban want?


Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.


Looks like the Taliban and the Tea Party have similar goals. Maybe that's why the Tea Padty has been called the American Taliban.

The discussion here is the shared goals between the Taliban and the Tea Party, not political ideas or name calling.

[fast4522]

Its refreshing to say screw the establishment.
More Tea please.

[Tom]

The discussion here is the shared goals between the Taliban and the Tea Party, not political ideas or name calling.

There are shared goals, and anyone who says there is an idiot.
And not fit to call himself an American.

Is that clear enough for you?

[Clocker]

The discussion here is the shared goals between the Taliban and the Tea Party, not political ideas or name calling.

In case you haven't noticed, there has been no discussion here about the shared goals between the Taliban and the Tea Party. They exist only in your mind. I do congratulate you for originality. Not even such world class crazies as Chris Matthews or Debbie Wasserman Schultz have dared such inanity.

[Capper Al]

Does it matter what the reason for their action is? Both the Taliban and the Tea Party want to bring down our system for their own ends.

[rastajenk]

I've been to some TEA party events and consider myself sympathetic to their core issues. Clearly Capper Al and the super-self-congratulatory "independent" burnsy don't know what they're talking about. All you have to do is go to one event to see that it's the least scary, or terroristic, or unhinged group that you could ever run across. I'd be embarrassed to post such un-credentialed accusations.

[Saratoga_Mike]

What does the Taliban want?


Return to fundamental religion.
Belief the American government is the big Satan.
Bring down American government by any means possible.


Looks like the Taliban and the Tea Party have similar goals. Maybe that's why the Tea Padty has been called the American Taliban.

More left-wing hate. I try to come on the board and enjoy the racing commentary and your bile is unavoidable. Remember when you whined about the right-wing posts a few months ago? You have to be the biggest hypocrite on this board.

[Capper Al]

More left-wing hate. I try to come on the board and enjoy the racing commentary and your bile is unavoidable. Remember when you whined about the right-wing posts a few months ago? You have to be the biggest hypocrite on this board.

No, I have to join the crowd here. I still would prefer all this politicals go away, but that's not going to happen. So you do as I did with your quoted post. When you do it do you perceive yourself as whining? I think you are the real hypocrite.

[Capper Al]

Some more Reich for the Taliban here:

“The American people don’t want a government shutdown, and they don’t want Obamacare,” House Republican leaders said in a statement over the weekend. “We will do our job and send this bill over, and then it’s up to the Senate to pass it and stop a government showdown.” Wrong. The only settled way we know what the American people want is through the democratic process. And the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is the law of the land. A majority of the House and Senate voted for it, the President signed it into law, its constitutionality has been upheld by the Supreme Court, and a majority of Americans reelected the President after an election battle in which the Affordable Care Act was a central issue. Moreover, we don’t repeal laws in this country by holding hostage the entire government of the United States.

The showdown over the budget and the debt ceiling is a prelude to 2016, when the Tea Partiers plan to run Texas Senator Ted Cruz for President. (Cruz, if you haven’t noticed, is busily establishing his creds as the biggest flamer in Washington – orchestrating not only the current extortion but also the purge of reasonable Republicans from the GOP.) We mustn't give in to extortionists.

[PaceAdvantage]

Do we have two threads going about this subject?

Really?

Slow weekend Capper Al?

[Saratoga_Mike]

No, I have to join the crowd here. I still would prefer all this politicals go away, but that's not going to happen. So you do as I did with your quoted post. When you do it do you perceive yourself as whining? I think you are the real hypocrite.

1) "Have" to? Who forced you?

2) I've never whined about your postings or any other liberal's postings. I may disagree with you, but I've never said "oh no the liberals are ruining the horse racing board." I've only said it in jest.

3) I'm the real hypocrite? Brilliant response. You're as petulant as a 5-yr-old child. Do you understand I'm not whining? I'm characterizing your posts. Got it?

[Capper Al]

1) "Have" to? Who forced you?

2) I've never whined about your postings or any other liberal's postings. I may disagree with you, but I've never said "oh no the liberals are ruining the horse racing board." I've only said it in jest.

3) I'm the real hypocrite? Brilliant response. You're as petulant as a 5-yr-old child. Do you understand I'm not whining? I'm characterizing your posts. Got it?

You are whining.

[Capper Al]

Do we have two threads going about this subject?

Really?

Slow weekend Capper Al?

This is where your bias shows. Did you ever ask JustRalph if he had a slow week when he posts multiple right wing threads? I don't think so. You like to hear that gibberish.

[Saratoga_Mike]

You are whining.

I just think you're ill-informed, retrieving all of your info from TV and the Internet. If you want to characterize that assertion as whining, please go right ahead. But please don't characterize it as false.

[woodtoo]

Hard to believe Capper Al Qaeda prefers the Taliban over the tea party
but from his posts this does seem to be true.I would suggest we
raise funds to send him to Afghanistan for some well deserved
vacation time. I doubt he would last one day.



ps..on the other hand if you attend a tea party you'll likely meet your soulmate. :p

[Robert Goren]

Do we have two threads going about this subject?

Really?

Slow weekend Capper Al? If he keep that up, he might have to change his handle Just Ralph II.:rolleyes:

[PaceAdvantage]

This is where your bias shows. Did you ever ask JustRalph if he had a slow week when he posts multiple right wing threads? I don't think so. You like to hear that gibberish.But he doesn't start threads on the SAME EXACT SUBJECT...that's what I'm talking about...

You have two threads...started hours apart...on the same EXACT thing...American Taliban = Tea Party.

Ralph don't do that...

Try again pal.

But you keep walking around with that chip on your shoulder...the "I'm picked on because I'm a lefty" bullshit. And I'll call you out on it each and every time.

You see I knew you'd come back at me with this lame "bias" garbage.

If Ralph started two threads on the same exact subject hours apart, I'd be questioning him too...if Tom did it, I'd question him to.

BUT THEY DON'T DO THAT.

But you, Mr Limited, you equate JustRalph starting two right-leaning threads about DIFFERENT SUBJECTS to be EQUAL to YOU (left-leaner) starting two threads about THE EXACT SAME SUBJECT!!

Amazing.

[PaceAdvantage]

If he keep that up, he might have to change his handle Just Ralph II.:rolleyes:Another limited thinker.

Another who equates Ralph starting more then one thread ON ACTUAL DIFFERENT SUBJECTS/TOPICS to Capper Al starting more than one thread ON THE SAME EXACT SUBJECT within HOURS of each other.

Where did you guys learn such keen powers of observation?

Thank goodness you guys aren't in charge of anything important.

[Capper Al]

But he doesn't start threads on the SAME EXACT SUBJECT...that's what I'm talking about...

You have two threads...started hours apart...on the same EXACT thing...American Taliban = Tea Party.

Ralph don't do that...

Try again pal.

But you keep walking around with that chip on your shoulder...the "I'm picked on because I'm a lefty" bullshit. And I'll call you out on it each and every time.

You see I knew you'd come back at me with this lame "bias" garbage.

If Ralph started two threads on the same exact subject hours apart, I'd be questioning him too...if Tom did it, I'd question him to.

BUT THEY DON'T DO THAT.

But you, Mr Limited, you equate JustRalph starting two right-leaning threads about DIFFERENT SUBJECTS to be EQUAL to YOU (left-leaner) starting two threads about THE EXACT SAME SUBJECT!!

Amazing.

One topic is about the similarities between the tea party and the taliban goals. The other points out the irony that the taliban would better invest their money supporting the tea party than terrorists.

[Tom]

New demands by the Taliban.....


Lower taxes
Less spending


Or else!

:lol::lol::lol:

[Robert Goren]

New demands by the Taliban.....


Lower taxes
Less spending


Or else!

:lol::lol::lol: You forgot more control over your personal life. You either live your as we interrupt the Bible or else. :lol:

[rastajenk]

As usual, you got it backwards.

[PaceAdvantage]

One topic is about the similarities between the tea party and the taliban goals. The other points out the irony that the taliban would better invest their money supporting the tea party than terrorists.Oh, well, when you put it that way, my mistake.

Never mind.







































































































































































:bang:

[Robert Goren]

As usual, you got it backwards.Oh really, they are not pushing for stronger anti-abortions laws? Trying to keep people from legally marrying who they want? I could go on, but why bother. You want to believe they are anti big government so you are going to ignore the case where they are for big government.

[PaceAdvantage]

Oh really, they are not pushing for stronger anti-abortions laws? Trying to keep people from legally marrying who they want? I could go on, but why bother. You want to believe they are anti big government so you are going to ignore the case where they are for big government.Are they pushing for Federal laws to outlaw abortion and allowing people to "marry who they want?"

Or do they want to see states retain the right to decide for themselves what will and won't be legal within their borders?

Why must the Federal Gov't be in charge of these decisions? What makes abortion and marriage a Federal jurisdiction? Hasn't marriage been overseen by the state forever? Shouldn't abortion be the same?

Stop looking to the Feds to solve all of your moral dilemmas.

[Robert Goren]

Are they pushing for Federal laws to outlaw abortion and allowing people to "marry who they want?"

Or do they want to see states retain the right to decide for themselves what will and won't be legal within their borders?

Why must the Federal Gov't be in charge of these decisions? What makes abortion and marriage a Federal jurisdiction? Hasn't marriage been overseen by the state forever? Shouldn't abortion be the same?

Stop looking to the Feds to solve all of your moral dilemmas.At one time you were probably right, but people and companies move around to much or located in multiple states. Somethings need to be same all across the country.

[rastajenk]

. Somethings need to be same all across the country.
Diversity is great, unless it's not! :)