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PICSIX
09-17-2013, 06:53 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/employment-gap-between-rich-poor-widest-record-072956259.html

Rates of unemployment for the lowest-income families have topped 21% according to this article :ThmbDown:

Robert Goren
09-17-2013, 07:36 AM
There is trend dating back to at least Reagan, maybe longer, to push down the wages of lower level workers in this country. The GOP with its union busting, two facedness on immigration, promoting the outsourcing of jobs and fighting the raising of the minimum wage are pro active on it. The democrats have just rolled over and let it happen.
Both parties talk about the middle class, but there is a wide gap between in levels of what they think is the middle class. The GOP considers a lot of small business owners and upper rungs of middle management middle class. You would be hard pressed to find an hourly worker most republicans consider middle class. The democrats generally consider anybody in a supervisory position and roughly 1/2 to 2/3 of hourly workers middle class. You can see a real difference in the some degree required positions such as teachers and nurses between the parties. Democrats view these workers as middle class. The GOP generally does not. Democrats consider most office personal middle class and while the GOP wouldn't even consider a lot of office managers middle class. It is difference that is not often talked about, but readily apparent to even the most casual observer.
There is a lot of delusion by some card carrying republicans. They consider themselves as middle class while rest of the party generally doesn't. I saw it all the time back in my working days especially in lower management.

PaceAdvantage
09-17-2013, 09:04 AM
Hold on man...isn't the GOP supposed to be a dead party? Filled with aging rich white men and being made irrelevant with the growing population of minorities/Democrats?

You guys keep complaining how everything bad happens because of the GOP...how it's the GOP's fault why the Democrats haven't delivered America into the promised land with all their awesome policies...

So which is it? Is the GOP dead or not? They can't be dead if you keep using them as an excuse for Democrat failure.

badcompany
09-17-2013, 09:53 AM
Another dinosaur trotting out the tired meme about how Reagan killed the Unions.

Sorry, the decline started well before him. The reason for their decline is that their model was unsustainable.

Liberals never tell us what they would do about the billion Chinese and Indian cheap laborers? Put a fence around those countries?

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Clocker
09-17-2013, 10:31 AM
Both parties talk about the middle class, but there is a wide gap between in levels of what they think is the middle class.

You present no evidence that this is true, but more importantly, you present no evidence that if true, it has any relevance. How people think about these things is not relevant. What they do about it is.

All that is relevant is the impact of policy on the middle class. What's killing the middle class is a bloated federal bureaucracy, high taxes, even higher spending, and exponentially growing government regulation and interference in the market. Both parties are guilty, despite the the GOP claims to being the party of freedom and choice. But the data shows that the causes and the results have sky-rocketed under the current Democratic control of policy, starting with Pelosi and Reid taking leadership of Congress under the Bush administration. And Bush is equally guilty for not reining them in. And then along came Obama to greatly exacerbate the problem.

Robert Goren
09-17-2013, 02:30 PM
Hold on man...isn't the GOP supposed to be a dead party? Filled with aging rich white men and being made irrelevant with the growing population of minorities/Democrats?

You guys keep complaining how everything bad happens because of the GOP...how it's the GOP's fault why the Democrats haven't delivered America into the promised land with all their awesome policies...

So which is it? Is the GOP dead or not? They can't be dead if you keep using them as an excuse for Democrat failure.I have never said the GOP is dead. While it may have trouble winning national election if they keep putting up candidates like they did in the last election, they are very much alive at the state and local level in most states. In Nebraska, we have for all practical purposes a one party state and that party is the GOP. Right now all state offices, all 3 congressional seats and both Senate seats are held by the GOP. The only way a democrat gets elected here is if the incumbent republican really screws up bad and even then most the time the democrat is really a republican who switched parties to run. Such is the case with the Lincoln mayor. Omaha has a GOP mayor.
The only thing that can be said about the democratic politicians in general is that are not quite as bad as their GOP counterparts. There nothing awesome about either party. Say what you want, but there is no denying the last GOP president left the country with a shrinking economy and a banking mess. The country is not great shape yet, but it is till in lot better shape than it was. Hey, the economy may be only growing slowly, but at least it not contracting at a rate 8% a year like it was in the last quarter of 2008. Who knows about the banks? Their hired guns (both republican and democrat) keep us from knowing what is really going on there. The banks for as long as I can remember have been a time bomb just waiting to blow up the economy. I think every recession, depression or panic can tied directly to the bank system.

fast4522
10-05-2013, 08:31 AM
Employment Gap Widens

A far more deserving thread than the current "Breaking News Capitol Hill", no real connection is there? :bang:

JustRalph
10-05-2013, 02:03 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/employment-gap-between-rich-poor-widest-record-072956259.html

Rates of unemployment for the lowest-income families have topped 21% according to this article :ThmbDown:

Thanks for posting the link. I missed that piece. If that is accurate, it's incredible. Legacy.... Legacy......Legacy...........here it is.

Tom
10-05-2013, 04:13 PM
No jobs, but Obama has made damn sure they all have phones! :lol: :lol:

Which is the bigger ass-hat - Obama, or someone who believes his crap?

PaceAdvantage
10-06-2013, 09:14 PM
That damn Bush...look what he done...

We are still supposed to be blamin' da Bush...yes? At least until January 2017 I think...