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wiffleball whizz
08-30-2013, 09:08 PM
Football season is here and everybody thinks they got all the answers when it comes to handicapping football.....So here is everybody's chance to talk the talk and walk the walk.,......here's the deal....

-contest will be consisted of 3 different "seasons"
A. Weeks 1-9
B. Weeks 10-17
C. Overall season

(sorry this isn't as organized as "track collector" and "jay trotter" they are in a class of there own)

Every week each participant will select 7 games, you can select either:
A. Team vs the point spread
B. Over under in the game

Of the 7 games 2 will be scored as "best bets"
A. "best bets" are worth 3 points
B. others are worth 2 points
C. A "push" is worth 1 point

We are going to use the website "Vegas insider" for the official lines....as in opening lines

-if a game is off the board it will be a pickem game but can't be used as a "best bet"

-all picks must be in by 8pm Thursday

Prizes will be awarded to all 3 winners

Weeks 1-7, 10-15 picks can be made on this thread.....like the deltoga challenge each week will have its own thread.....weeks 8,9 16,17 will be made via my email adress to avoid "checker on checker" .....that is when your up by 3 points and u see the guy behind in standings picks you select the same games.....I know that move;)

Summery: pick 7 games and select 2 best bets when you select a best bet just put "BB" to signal selection

Home teams will be in CAPS....
If you select a over under as a pick put home team with a (+) for over and a (-) for under.....over under in parentheses any questions feel free to ask

Week 1 lines opened a while ago so there will have been modest movements

Week 1 NFL lines(official)

DENVER 8.5 baltimore (49.5)

new england 7 BUFFALO (53)

PITTSBURGH 6.5 tennesee (43.5)

NEW ORLEANS 3 atlanta (54)

tampa bay 2.5 JETS (41)

kansas city 3 JACKSONVILLE (40.5)

CHICAGO 3.5 cincinnati (45.5)

miami 1 CLEVELAND (41.5)

seattle 3 CAROLINA (45.5)

DETRIOT 3.5 minny (47)

INDY 7 oakland (49)

ST LOUIS 6 arizona (40.5)

SAN FRAN 4.5 green bay (50.5)

DALLAS 3 giants (49)

WASHINGTON 4.5 philly (51)

houston 3.5 SAN DIEGO (47)

Good luck to all

Pool closes 9/5 at 8pm

wiffleball whizz
09-02-2013, 08:36 PM
Cleveland BB
Seattle BB
New Orleans (over)
Buffalo
Oakland
JETS
Jacksonville

Let's start getting pix in boys got a lot of pm's about the contest here it is

proximity
09-03-2013, 03:31 AM
Every week each participant will select 7 games, you can select either:
A. Team vs the point spread
B. Over under in the game



just for clarification:

(1)can we pick both a winner and total in a game or must we choose one or the other for seven different games?

(2) can a player pick both sides of a game for a push????

wiffleball whizz
09-03-2013, 05:55 AM
just for clarification:

(1)can we pick both a winner and total in a game or must we choose one or the other for seven different games?

(2) can a player pick both sides of a game for a push????

1. Yes
2. Yes.......part of the strategy

BetHorses!
09-03-2013, 08:42 AM
2. Yes.......part of the strategy

So if Jets are 3 over Giants, u can pick jets and Giants...if Jets winb by 3 you get 2 points (1+1) ?

wiffleball whizz
09-03-2013, 09:14 AM
Yes........if you want to forfeit picks feel free to do so.....usually in the pool im in which consists of all nfl games and college 1 Loss is usually what it takes to win...

If you have the lead late in the game and wanna get 5 points you do what you gotta do

Valuist
09-03-2013, 09:57 AM
Because week 1 lines came out so long ago and this thread just went up, we really should use current lines. Too easy to cherry pick the line moves from the initial number. This would only an issue for week 1.

Charli125
09-03-2013, 12:18 PM
Since I can't bet sports any longer, this will be fun. Good idea whiz.

Week 1 Picks
tampa bay vs. JETS OVER (41)
seattle-3
DETROIT-3.5
INDY-7 Best Bet
new england-7 Best Bet
arizona+6
houston-3.5

Robert Goren
09-03-2013, 12:49 PM
NO-Atl over 54
TB-Jets under41
Sea-Car under 45.5
Minn+3.5 BB
SF-GB over 50.5 BB
NYG +3
Wash-Phil over 51

Feel free to bet the other way and collect big.

Valuist
09-03-2013, 01:30 PM
7 bets is a lot for each week but here we go:

Baltimore +8.5
NE/Buffalo UNDER 53 (best bet)
Cincinnati/Chicago UNDER 45.5 (best bet)
Carolina +3
Detroit -3.5
New Orleans -3
Philadelphia +4.5

horses4courses
09-03-2013, 03:18 PM
BAL +8.5 BB

IND -7 BB

NE -7

HOU -3.5

KC -3

TB -2.5

HOU/SD UN 47

hugh
09-03-2013, 03:45 PM
Week One...
(I have a problem with the Oakland line.. +7 isn't cutting it for me..it should be plus 10)
Carolina +3.. BEST BET
Jets +2.5
Jax +3
SD +3.5 ... BEST BET
Philly +4.5
NO/Atl Under 54
No/Atl Over 54

rastajenk
09-03-2013, 04:01 PM
1) Pitt BB
2) Cincinnati
3) CHI (-) BB
4) Buffalo
5) Cleveland
6) Carolina
7) Atlanta

Marshall Bennett
09-03-2013, 04:06 PM
Atlanta (best bet)
New York Giants (best bet)
Green Bay
Indianapolis
Cincinnati
Washington

proximity
09-03-2013, 04:28 PM
there have been several questions about the line whizz???

what is this based on??? lines and totals you posted?? or something else??

wiffleball whizz
09-03-2013, 05:36 PM
there have been several questions about the line whizz???

what is this based on??? lines and totals you posted?? or something else??

Opening lines on Vegas insider all the way to the left...

If anybody has a better opening line site please speak up would love to use what's best!!

Valuist
09-03-2013, 10:30 PM
Opening lines on Vegas insider all the way to the left...

If anybody has a better opening line site please speak up would love to use what's best!!

I don't think anyone is questioning Vegas Insider; its just that the week 1 lines came out so long ago, there has been a substantial amount of line movement.

horses4courses
09-03-2013, 10:35 PM
The line may be a little stale....no matter.
It's the same for all players, and it's only on opening week that this will occur.
JMO.....

Relwob Owner
09-03-2013, 10:38 PM
Relwob Week 1 picks

Denver
Indy
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Dallas
N.O.
Chicago

Good job setting this up WW

proximity
09-03-2013, 11:11 PM
Relwob Week 1 picks



welcome back relwob!!

you forgot to designate your two best bets...... although I doubt you'll need them to beat my total!! :)

Relwob Owner
09-03-2013, 11:16 PM
welcome back relwob!!

you forgot to designate your two best bets...... although I doubt you'll need them to beat my total!! :)

Thank you sir! Now, lets try this again
Relwob Week 1 picks

Denver
Indy
Pittsburgh
Cleveland-BB
Dallas
N.O.
Chicago-BB

wiffleball whizz
09-03-2013, 11:22 PM
Relwob Week 1 picks

Denver
Indy
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Dallas
N.O.
Chicago

Good job setting this up WW

Relwod please post 2 best bets.....thanks

wiffleball whizz
09-03-2013, 11:26 PM
The line may be a little stale....no matter.
It's the same for all players, and it's only on opening week that this will occur.
JMO.....

Correct everybody has the same lines and they are as stale as 9 week
Old bread....people should jump on them if there off...I have no clue what current lines are for week 1 as I have to survive a full slate of action on saturday!!!

Good luck in this pool it should be a lot of fun!!

magwell
09-03-2013, 11:58 PM
NE bb Indy bb TB ARZ KC PITT CINN

wiffleball whizz
09-04-2013, 12:26 AM
welcome back relwob!!

you forgot to designate your two best bets...... although I doubt you'll need them to beat my total!! :)

Are you saying the nfl handicapping contest flushed out relwob from the woodwork?!?!

iwearpurple
09-04-2013, 12:31 AM
Indianapolis BB -7
Tampa Bay -2.5
Minnesota +3.5
Dallas -3
New England BB -7
Green Bay +4.5
Houston -3.5

Robert Fischer
09-04-2013, 12:41 AM
PITTSBURGH BB
new england
seattle
INDY -7 BB
tampa bay
Houston
CHICAGO cincinnati (under45.5)

proximity
09-04-2013, 01:20 AM
Are you saying the nfl handicapping contest flushed out relwob from the woodwork?!?!

he didn't post for awhile.

i was starting to worry that maybe he got trampled by some juiced wv breds or something.

precocity
09-04-2013, 06:22 AM
san fran bb
dallas
houston
ST LOUIS bb
kansas city
ST LOUIS 6 arizona (40.5)-over
new england 7 BUFFALO (53)-low

Relwob Owner
09-04-2013, 07:03 AM
Relwod please post 2 best bets.....thanks

Hey WW-I reposted in post 21 and am all set. Sorry I missed the Best Bet part the first time. Good luck!

Jay Trotter
09-04-2013, 08:34 AM
Wiff -- so, we're using the lines you listed in Post #1 right? Not the current lines on the website.

wiffleball whizz
09-04-2013, 09:16 AM
Wiff -- so, we're using the lines you listed in Post #1 right? Not the current lines on the website.

Correct Vegas insider openings line.... The ones I posted are the same

Again if anybody has a better site to get the numbers from feel free to suggest as a lot of improvements can be made By now and then

Relwob Owner
09-04-2013, 09:26 AM
he didn't post for awhile.

i was starting to worry that maybe he got trampled by some juiced wv breds or something.

Thankfully, I was able to avoid getting trampled and am glad to be back!

jgcanuck
09-04-2013, 01:42 PM
Baltimore +8.5 BB
New England -7 BB
Tampa Bay -2.5
San Diego +3.5
Green Bay +4.5
Indianapolis -7
Cincinnati +3.5

RunForTheRoses
09-04-2013, 02:16 PM
Broncos UN
IND
Hou
NE
MINN BB
CINCY BB
Panthers

cj's dad
09-04-2013, 03:25 PM
I assume the 1st team listed is the dog and the CAPS team is at home ?

wiffleball whizz
09-04-2013, 06:27 PM
I assume the 1st team listed is the dog and the CAPS team is at home ?

Left side favorite CAPS is HOME

Sidenote: ravens figure to be on the "right side" more times then not :lol: :lol: :lol:

notoutofpounds
09-04-2013, 08:08 PM
Mr. Monday Nite's Boiler Room Specials:

Best Bet # 1 Philly
Best Bet # 2 Houston
Denver
New England
Tennessee
Oakland
St Louis

Jay Trotter
09-04-2013, 08:27 PM
Week 1 Plays

baltimore +8.5
new england -7
atlanta +3
CHICAGO/cincinnati (Under 45.5) *Best Bet
seattle -3
minnesota +3.5
houston/SAN DIEGO (Under 47) *Best Bet

Striker
09-05-2013, 12:10 AM
Week 1

Detroit--BB
Cleveland
Kansas City
Indy
Dallas
San Fran
Houston--BB

wiffleball whizz
09-05-2013, 01:31 AM
on the eve of kickoff I'm throwing a new wrinkle into this which you guys will like.....

In addition to the gift cards that will be awarded to the winners I'm doing a special carryover......(we do this in our contest)

Starting week 2there will be a $20 gift card to anybody that wins the pool back to back weeks......if nobody wins weeks 1 and 2 $10 is added to week 3 for $30 if you win weeks 2&3......if it doesn't hit weeks 3&4 is $40 etc etc etc......$10 will roll over each week.......so each week somebody will be going for the back to back wins for the gift card....it's a lot of fun

So whoever didn't get in this pool yet it's time to get in........there are some sharpies in this contest even the newly crowned "deltoga champ" will be making his presence felt!!

Before we know it it will be week 17 already months go by very fast during football!!

Jay Trotter
09-05-2013, 08:57 AM
Posting Week 1 plays for new member - mymkovski
He has signed up at PaceAdvantage but is still waiting to be approved for posting privledges.

mymkovski

1. SF Under 50.5 BB
2. SEA -3 BB
3. NE Under 53
4. MIN +3.5
5. NYG +3
6. BAL +8.5
7. PIT -6.5

Trotter :ThmbUp:

wiffleball whizz
09-05-2013, 09:24 AM
Week 1 pool closing at 8:30pm.....entries wil be taken afterwards but you will be behind the pack.

Waiting for legendary members cj and cj's dad figure both can get off to a 3 point head start with the ravens when they win 41-0 on the road tonight :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

Phone will be out of commission with no signal so i have no choice but to label horses 4 courses as the 7/5 morning line favorite after a dominating performance in deltoga challenge as well as the Nevada sportsbook sharpness!!

Valuist
09-05-2013, 09:38 AM
So not only Von Miller out but it looks like Champ will be out as well. This game could be a shootout.

If you have the Denver D in a fantasy league, you may want to look to the waiver wire for a second option. At least until Miller comes back.

proximity
09-05-2013, 11:06 AM
ok, ww I will give this a try:

(1) broncos vs ravens (over 49.5)
(2) titans +6.5
(3) falcons +3
(4) colts -7
(5) colts vs raiders (under 49) BEST BET
(6) redskins -4.5
(7) Texans -3.5 BEST BET

cj's dad
09-05-2013, 11:15 AM
Ravens BB
NE BB
Indy
Houston
Cinn
Tampa
Pitt

Quagmire
09-05-2013, 11:24 AM
Washington -4.5 BB
Detroit -3.5 BB
Tampa Bay -2.5
Cincy +3.5
Baltimore +8.5
Indy -7
S.F. -4.5

woodtoo
09-05-2013, 01:28 PM
Indy BB
NE BB
Houston
Minn.
Cleveland
Pitt.
San Fran

Rise Over Run
09-05-2013, 01:42 PM
DENVER/Baltimore over 49.5 BB
Tennessee +6.5
NEW ORLEANS -3
TB -2.5
TB/JETS under 41 BB
KC-3
Cleveland +1

BetHorses!
09-05-2013, 03:28 PM
Bengals +3.5 (Best Bet)

Chi/Cin UNDER 45.5 (Best Bet)

SD/Hou UNDER 47

Colts -7

Jets +2.5

Browns +1

Saints -3

burnsy
09-05-2013, 03:45 PM
St. Louis BEST BET
San Fran BEST BET

Jacksonville
Seattle
NE vs. Buff. Under
New Orleans
San Diego

ManU918
09-05-2013, 06:16 PM
Broncos -8.5 BB
Lions -3.5 BB

Texans vs Chargers Under 47
Colts -7
Packers vs 49ers Under 50.5
Eagles +4.5
Cowboys -3

HuggingTheRail
09-05-2013, 06:29 PM
Denver BB
Pittsburgh BB
Seattle
Miami
San Fran
Washington UNDER
Dallas OVER

Rookies
09-05-2013, 08:55 PM
+ 3.5 cincinnati Best Bet

DALLAS 3 Best Bet

DETROIT 3.5

+ 3 atlanta

kansas city 3

houston 3.5

SAN FRAN 4.5

Robert Fischer
09-05-2013, 10:02 PM
Manning to get some points this half ??

EDIT- yes. :D 1 play later