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Barretts Race Meet at Fairplex
Track Collector
08-09-2013, 11:08 AM
More (pain in the rear) software programing changes needed. :mad:
I guess when you make a huge financial contribution one's ego demands that it be known everywhere, including the PP track code designation. Of course it was Pomona (Pom) many years ago before it was Fairplex. Since Parx did it with Philadelphia Park, I guess it is not just one of those "California" things.
Does this mean the 3-character code for Fairmount Park can be changed from FPK to back to FPX. :rolleyes::p
Seriously, thanks for the heads-up cj.
I would think that this is going to be a running change rather than a retro-active change, right? In other words, all future races will reflect the new track code of BRM, but previously run races will still reflect the Fpx code.
Chris
wiffleball whizz
08-09-2013, 11:20 AM
This may be the dumbest abbreviation yet.....makes zero sense
Along the same lines why am I waking up this morning in Baltimore land and there's not any live racing on a Friday afternoon in the heart of the summer.....no summer racing :bang: :bang: :bang:
When I go to CT tonight why isn't the track code HCT or CTH.....can't believe the bottom rung Hollywood casino brand didn't enforce there name on the track code......and trust me Hollywood is the cheapest company you will ever come across
pondman
08-09-2013, 12:42 PM
Got a B for Bull.
And an R for Ring.
What's the S stand for?
Ted Craven
08-09-2013, 01:18 PM
Got a B for Bull.
And an R for Ring.
What's the S stand for?
... waSte of my time ?
:mad:
Dan Montilion
08-09-2013, 01:26 PM
What?... What the hell happened to Pomona?
Got a B for Bull.
And an R for Ring.
What's the S stand for?
Not sure about the R, but I know this is BS.
wiffleball whizz
08-09-2013, 01:58 PM
Just out of sheer stupidity on my part are these abbreviations that big of a deal to your guys software? Seems like its totally uncalled for to change these abbreviations
Just out of sheer stupidity on my part are these abbreviations that big of a deal to your guys software? Seems like its totally uncalled for to change these abbreviations
Not a big deal, but of course you have to program for the new code and merge things so your program knows FPX and BRS is the same track.
BRF would be more like, it but that makes you think barf, which is what the quality of their product makes me think of.
... waSte of my time ?
:mad:
I'll help you out, Ted, here's the code....
if Track = BRS, <del> line
JustRalph
08-09-2013, 02:55 PM
It's a big deal depending on what software you use.
PhantomOnTour
08-09-2013, 03:31 PM
Bull
Shit
Racing
wiffleball whizz
08-09-2013, 03:47 PM
Can a track be any more irrelevant then fairplex on a Sunday in September....nfl rolling full blast and the you got fairplex in the 4pm timeslot with 1pm games ending and 4pm games starting....fpx gets lost in the shuffle....
Remember being in the venitian sports book and betting fpx on a Sunday and the tellers were looking at me like I was crazy....long lines of people trying to get 4pm football plays in and I'm trying to bet fairplex...they hated my guts
Saratoga_Mike
08-09-2013, 04:22 PM
Can a track be any more irrelevant then fairplex on a Sunday in September....nfl rolling full blast and the you got fairplex in the 4pm timeslot with 1pm games ending and 4pm games starting....fpx gets lost in the shuffle....
Remember being in the venitian sports book and betting fpx on a Sunday and the tellers were looking at me like I was crazy....long lines of people trying to get 4pm football plays in and I'm trying to bet fairplex...they hated my guts
Given they handle millions on Sundays in Sept, I'd say the answer is clearly yes. I suspect their Sunday handle in Sept ranks second only to Belmont.
Jeff P
08-09-2013, 06:43 PM
Just going off the posted responses by players in this thread - track management really ought to rethink their modus operendi.
Instead of just blindly dictating a change - Why not vet out said change first by putting it in front of a horseplayer focus group?
Had that been done, track management would have discovered a few things:
A significant percentage of handle is generated by players who use something called data to make their betting decisions.
Mandating that Equibase make a change in track code for data distributed to data vendors such as Brisnet, DRF, HDW, etc. isn't going to increase handle.
But it WILL create something you don't want: Customer badwill.
Bettors could almost literally care less what you call your track.
But they do care - and deeply too - about the integrity of the data they pay for in order to bet horses at your track.
Take a horse with a strong lifetime record at FPX... one that's say 4 wins from 9 starts at FPX... Change the track code and I can all but guarantee you at least one horse like that will show up in the data as 0 wins from 0 lifetime starts at BSR. Same thing goes for the records of riders, trainers, sires, dams, owners, breeders, etc.
Go ahead. Change the name of your track if you feel you must. Get the new name out there. Display it proudly on your signs, your track program, and on billboards all over town. Get it on cable TV and radio. Let Trevor mention the new name every time your horses face up to the gate.
By all means - do that! (And do it knowing your players hope the new name brings you much success!)
But had you asked your customers first - the ones who bet most frequently and bet the most would have been almost universal in telling you to leave the track code in the data the hell alone.
Jeff Platt
President, HANA
wiffleball whizz
08-09-2013, 08:37 PM
Barretts Race Meet at Fairplex
Cj couldn't find a place to ask you this so I'll
Put it in the 5/8th flats thread.......I know your favorite announcer is the Charlestown caller......you love his calling style and says he never makes a mistake...../
Let me know if you want me to get you a autograph.....I'll get it on the ct live program........your welcome
The whizzzz :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jeff, the problem is that tracks can't ask their customers about things like this - most tracks have no clue WHO their customers are. Your idea is based on tracks being managed by intelligent, aware people, which is not the case for most tracks.
Clearly, not the idiots who run BRF.
Someone's nephew, my guess.
Fingal
08-09-2013, 10:01 PM
BRF would be more like, it but that makes you think barf, which is what the quality of their product makes me think of.
I'd vote for HSS
Hot
Sticky
Smoggy
There's a reason why most S. Cal jockeys & trainers take a vacation at that time.
Track Collector
08-09-2013, 10:07 PM
Perhaps Fpx = BSR = HANA boycott.
PaceAdvantage
08-09-2013, 10:07 PM
Cj couldn't find a place to ask you this so I'll
Put it in the 5/8th flats thread.......I know your favorite announcer is the Charlestown caller......you love his calling style and says he never makes a mistake...../
Let me know if you want me to get you a autograph.....I'll get it on the ct live program........your welcome
The whizzzz :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Are you confusing me with cj? Between the three of us, you're gonna have folks thinking we're all the same...
wiffleball whizz
08-09-2013, 10:19 PM
Are you confusing me with cj? Between the three of us, you're gonna have folks thinking we're all the same...
Hahahahahahahaha.........yea know I remember you blasted me one night for saying that I thought the guy was solid.....what a moron I am.....u gotta hear the guy mumble after the hit the wire....he calls one horse then will come up with a alibi that maybe he was wrong cus the horse was wide.....
I'll get you a program signed by him......trust me it's my pleasure :lol: :lol: :lol:
wiffleball whizz
08-09-2013, 10:21 PM
This night was a waste......got buried for 140 or so on ct races betting like a idiot then I may be in the process of booking a 200 win playing cards but it's really secondary.......fuming about not having harness here
Laurel park for this guy tnrw......
plainolebill
08-11-2013, 01:07 AM
I take FPX off. Crazy stuff though.
GMB@BP
08-11-2013, 03:09 PM
If there is money in it I can see this happening much more often. Come see the races at Barclay's Saratoga Race Course (BSRC).
I just ran into problems this weekend with an old file the used HOL instead BHP so after hours of work, I was SOL.
Only in horse racing are the tracks more concerned over their stupid meaningless names than they are the timing of their product. This game is run by total morons and their nephews. I gotta really be an idiot to continue to play it.
iwearpurple
08-11-2013, 09:03 PM
I just ran into problems this weekend with an old file the used HOL instead BHP so after hours of work, I was SOL.
No, that's the Solano Fair
No, that's the Solano Fair
:lol: Where was my head?
wiffleball whizz
08-11-2013, 09:35 PM
I just ran into problems this weekend with an old file the used HOL instead BHP so after hours of work, I was SOL.
Only in horse racing are the tracks more concerned over their stupid meaningless names than they are the timing of their product. This game is run by total morons and their nephews. I gotta really be an idiot to continue to play it.
That's what I say to myself......and I bet cheap harness I gotta be one of the dumbest people on earth
Mike at A+
08-11-2013, 10:23 PM
Been there done that too many times. After OSA (Oak Tree at Santa Anita), I made the track names and mappings user maintainable in A+ Thorobred.
BlueShoe
08-12-2013, 12:00 AM
Hey fellas, lots of snide remarks about Pomona racing, but I have news for you Midwest and Eastcoast guys; Fairflex is not a minor track meeting, and has not been one for decades. No it is not SA, HOL, or DMR, but it is not TUP either. The handle and purses are big league, not bush. A few of the top riders and barns do race there, and the cards are not just filled with $4000 conditioned claimers, some pretty fair horses show up each year to contest the better races.
iwearpurple
08-12-2013, 12:25 AM
I certainly am not complaining of the quality of racing there. I used to live in California (near Pomona) and loved going there.
What I am complaining about, and I think I am speaking for the others, is this constantly changing the code for the track. First is was POM, then FPX, now BSR.
Dumber yet was using different codes for the Oak Tree Meetings.
SandyW
08-12-2013, 12:42 AM
If the new code don't fit, then just omit playing the track.
goatchaser
08-12-2013, 01:05 PM
If PVal is still riding by the time this meet comes around....keep an eye on him. He knows this oval. was riding there when it was a 1/2 mile track. Pedroza always the leading rider and Flores always does well there when and if he rides.
Hope they run appys there this year and an occasional Mule Race. Anyone seen Black Ruby?
Robert Goren
08-12-2013, 01:36 PM
I certainly am not complaining of the quality of racing there. I used to live in California (near Pomona) and loved going there.
What I am complaining about, and I think I am speaking for the others, is this constantly changing the code for the track. First is was POM, then FPX, now BSR.
Dumber yet was using different codes for the Oak Tree Meetings. get use to it, we are going to see a lot more of this. If they can find someone dumb enough to pay to have their name on a race track, who are they to say no. After all the other sports are doing it.
DJofSD
08-12-2013, 01:57 PM
First of all, I agree, these seemingly arbitrary changes to track codes does not make anything better. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
But, a lingering question about the use of these track codes is this: what company actually owns and sets these strings?
I always thought they were set by Equibase. True?
And if true, why is Equibase required to alter these data items? As far as I'm concerned, these 2/3 letter codes should reflect the geographic location of the race track, not the name of the meeting or the controlling organization. If Barrett's and others what to have their name out there in front of the customer as much as possible, that's fine. Change the name of the race to include the company name or find some other way to promote it. Leave the computer readable data alone.
But, on the other hand, BRIS has unused fields in their data files. How about just adding a new field which retains the original concept of the track code identifying the track, it's geographic location, etc., and not some other piece of information?
BlueShoe
08-12-2013, 03:18 PM
Pedroza always the leading rider and Flores always does well there when and if he rides.
Last year Edwin Maldonado took leading rider away from Pedroza 26-19. Flores did not ride there last year. Juan Hernandez was 3rd right behind Pedroza. Hernandez just edged Russell Baze for leading rider at Santa Rosa. Agapito Delgadillo a major player at Fairplex.
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