TrackMaster contest this month

[Ray2000]

FYI

Starts this Saturday Aug 10 thru Sep 14

Linited tracks this year...
Balmoral Park, Hoosier Park, Pocono Downs, Yonkers Raceway & The Red Mile

GLA


http://www.trackmaster.com/contest/

[mrroyboy]

Free PP's Ray?
Thing is I never do well in these contests so I don't want to spend money on them.

[Ray2000]

free stuff varies from week to week

"TrackMaster will be providing free past performance program data or expert analysis reports throughout the competition inside the contest area, a different product offering each week."

[LottaKash]

FYI

Starts this Saturday Aug 10 thru Sep 14

Linited tracks this year...
Balmoral Park, Hoosier Park, Pocono Downs, Yonkers Raceway & The Red Mile

GLA


http://www.trackmaster.com/contest/

As ever Ray, thx for the head's up on the contest....:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

I am going to alter my modus opeandi this year, and see if I can do better than usual...Got close a few times, but, that's all...

First time limited tracks, I see.....That's new....

Just those 5-tracks, sure ?....

[Ray2000]

The way I read it, yes. and only 5 shots at making the final, weren't there 10 before?

The 5 tracks are also a part of the USTA Strategic Guaranteed pool set
so free PPs for Pick4 or 5 will be available that way for some of the races

GL

[LottaKash]

The way I read it, yes. and only 5 shots at making the final, weren't there 10 before?


GL

Yes Ray, only 5 from the old 10wks is NEW....

I must try 5X harder now....:cool:

[mrroyboy]

Thanks Ray
I'll sign up for it

[Ray2000]

Based on last weeks winners...
Looks like if you go "5 for 5" on 5 to 1 shots, you might make the finals. :rolleyes:
I was 0 for 5 last week

Free Platinum PPs this week :jump:

My picks for 8/17

BMLP R13 ......#6 Revolutionary-6/1
HOP R3 .........#2 Call Me Flash-8/1
PCD R7 .........#6 Possessed Fashion-5/1
PCD R8 .........#6 Olde Time Hockey-10/1
PCD R10 .......#1 Novascotia Hanover-6/1

GLA

[Muddy]

Hoosier Park 5... ..... 10 TREVOR WIN FOR US
Hoosier Park 6... ..... 5 ITRUSTYOU
Hoosier Park 10.. .... 3 ALWAYS N THE MONEY
The Red Mile 4... .... 4 HILLBILLY DESIRE
The Red Mile 12.. ..... 6 MARIAN'S MAN

[Overcall]

Aug17


Balmoral Park 4 7 MUY CALIENTE
The Red Mile 4 6 UNREAL APPEAL
The Red Mile 11 4 MCKEE LARGO
The Red Mile 12 7 COWLING PARK
Yonkers Raceway 3 5 WINTER BLUES


gla

[LottaKash]

Last week I tried a new approach and it stunk, really bad....This week, well, is another week....haha...

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[EdZone]

It's only my 2nd contest. I'll give a try for fun ;)
First one was Grand River Raceway.
Thanks Ray for contest info.

Saturday, August 17th

Hoosier Park Race 10 6 Mr Labrook 7/2
Hoosier Park Race 12 6 Holy Halibut 4/1
Pocono Downs Race 6 1 Handsoffmycupcake 7/2
Pocono Downs Race 13 1 Bambino Glide 7/2
Yonkers Raceway Race 12 7 Windsong Harley 8/1

[Muddy]

Race #2 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 2 which is BETTORS CURSE
Race #3 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 7 which is SUNDAY POKER
Race #2 at The Red Mile on Program Number 6 which is BANCO SOLO
Race #8 at The Red Mile on Program Number 9 which is HIGHLAND HELLION
Race #9 at The Red Mile on Program Number 9 which is JUSTLIKEDINS

[EdZone]

wagers for 08/24/2013

Balmoral ParkR3 5 Victorize 10/1
Pocono Downs R11 2 Redneck Outlaw 5/2
Pocono Downs R12 3 Mustang Art 7/2
Yonkers Raceway R8 4 Pontiac Luck 8/1
Yonkers Raceway R9 7 Urgent Action 3/1

[Ray2000]

Sat 8/24 Great minds think alike*** :)

Race #10 at Balmoral Park on Program Number 4 which is MISS PAT WEISAR for $100
Race #13 at Balmoral Park on Program Number 9 which is T E'S ZENYATTA for $100
Race #8 at The Red Mile on Program Number 9 which is ***HIGHLAND HELLION for $100
Race #8 at Pocono Downs on Program Number 8 which is NO BU for $100
Race #8 at Yonkers Raceway on Program Number 4 which is ***PONTIAC LUCK for $100


Now if we were playing with last years rules....I would go...

BMLP R10 ......#4 Miss Pat Weisar-6/1
BTVA R9 .......#4 Ricky O Bay-4/1
MOH R1 ........#4 Bestofbest Hanover-6/1
MOH R6 ........#8 Rock Me Amastreos-8/1
MOH R10 .......#4 Clear Vision-7/1
SCD R4 ........#3 Dolly'S Rembrandt-4/1
STGA R12 ......#6 Space Walk-6/1
VD R6 .........#1 Opan Heart-8/1
YR R8 .........#4 Pontiac Luck-8/1

Let's see what would have been.....:)

Good Luck All

[tiger rose]

only hit for $790 last week

Yonkers 2 #7 Money Twitch A
Yonkers 6 #8 Statesman N
Yonkers 8 #4 Pontiac Luck
Yonkers 9 #2 PH Supercam
Balmoral 2 #5 Tink And Tiger

[Overcall]

Race #3 at The Red Mile on Program Number 5 which is SGT GRIT for $100
Race #8 at The Red Mile on Program Number 6 which is BLUE COLLAR RAIDER for $100
Race #11 at The Red Mile on Program Number 2 which is BAZINGA for $100
Race #9 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 3 which is NORTHMEDO SAMPSON for $100
Race #12 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 3 which is RAZ MA TAZ for $100
24Aug13.............. GLTA

[harness2008]

Managed to snag 4th place last week with the help of a 10-1 horse nailing a 1-9 at the finish at Balmoral. Only looked at a few races for this weeks contest, a bit chalky but these should hook up in the double.

Balmoral 1st # :3: YANKEE VACATION

Balmoral 2nd # :1: ICE SCRAPER

[LottaKash]

I will try just one from each of the eligible tracks....HaHA !...

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Good luck to all who are playing this thing....:jump:

[Ray2000]

went 1 for 5 this week, my 'old rules' play went 2 for 10, no good either

my only reason for posting is to say...

"Nice Going Harness2008"......Glad you're in the Finals...Do it, man

[LottaKash]

"Nice Going Harness2008"......Glad you're in the Finals...Do it, man



Yes Harness2008, I ditto that....Make us proud here at PA's dark-side...:jump:

[harness2008]

Thanks for the kind words Ray and Kash, that means a lot to me coming from both of you. As you well know, these contests are more about being extremely lucky than good. It's all about timing and I just happened to hit it at the right time. Keep plugging away at this, a few more weeks left to qualify.

[Ray2000]

See if newbot can do better :D

Sat, 8/31

Race #6 at Balmoral Park on Program Number 1 which is OSAGE for $100
Race #8 at Balmoral Park on Program Number 4 which is ALLAMERICAN SOLO for $100
Race #13 at Pocono Downs on Program Number 5 which is DAVE PANLONE for $100
Race #1 at Yonkers Raceway on Program Number 3 which is ERIDANUS N for $100
Race #9 at Yonkers Raceway on Program Number 6 which is SIR MELO'S Z TAM for $100

GLA

[EdZone]

All Race 5 every track:-

Saturday, 08/31/2013

Race 5 Balmoral Park Number 7 AGOOD TIME TO ROCK 6/1
Race 5 Hoosier Park Number 9 IF I LOSE 3/1
Race 5 Pocono Downs Number 1 VINCENT FRA 6/1
Race 5 The Red Mile Number 2 SEA BUG 7/2
Race 5 Yonkers Raceway Number 2 ROLLWITHITHARRY 5/1

[harness2008]

For those that are part of this contest or for anyone with access to the Trackmaster PP's for Balmoral Park this Saturday, check out the 4th race at Balmoral Park, #2 Monopoly Man.

I guess this is the main reason why I don't have much faith in the TM speed figs. Explain to me how it's possible to basically run within the same class for the last 5 races, establishing similiar speed figs at Balmoral, and then run at Springfield some 24 points lower for two consecutive races? Track variants look to be about the same for both tracks so I guess somebodys comparative speed chart is extremely off. I guarantee when you see his published speed fig for the Balmoral 4th race it will return to the mid 80's once again.

[LottaKash]

See if newbot can do better :D

GLA

Let me see if this "ole fart-bot" can do better....:cool: :jump:

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I hope we can get another PA-DarkSider in the finals....GLA

[EdZone]

When I see MICHAEL'S POWER in Yonkers. Aren't he suppose to be in Mohawk tonight? I check Mohawk, he is there also eligible in Canadian Pacing Final.
Is it MICHAELS POWER or MICHAEL'S POWER?

[LottaKash]

When I see MICHAEL'S POWER in Yonkers. Aren't he suppose to be in Mohawk tonight? I check Mohawk, he is there also eligible in Canadian Pacing Final.
Is it MICHAELS POWER or MICHAEL'S POWER?

EdZone, you are correct, MICHAELS POWER "is" listed at both tracks tonite....Both YR & Mhk...

The Mohawk listing shows that MP is "only" an also-eligible in tonites feature race , which is the $650K Canadian Pacing Derby....

[HWIG]

Here are your wagers for 08/31/2013.

Track Race # Prog # Horse

Pocono Downs 2nd 6 ALLAMERICAN DADDY
Pocono Downs 7th 3 STRONSKI
Yonkers Raceway 1st 2 TIDEWATER TEDDY
Yonkers Raceway 3rd 2 SAND BENELLI
Yonkers Raceway 4th 4 FOUR CORNERS

2nd at POCONO: AMERICAN DADDY - looks solid..... :)

[HWIG]

It is a good rule to just eliminate any Fair races from your handicap. Illinois fair races never hold up when the horse gets back to the main circuit.

[harness2008]

I agree HWIG, but why put them in there to begin with is my question. A discrepancy of this type obviously has to do with the fact that these are state fair races and thus any fig earned in this type of venue may be considered suspect due to a lack of volume of races needed to establish a good figure, but you can also find some weaknesses in everyday tracks in North America too. A few speed points here and there I can deal with, but not a 4 or 5 second difference

[HWIG]

I agree HWIG, but why put them in there to begin with is my question. A discrepancy of this type obviously has to do with the fact that these are state fair races and thus any fig earned in this type of venue may be considered suspect due to a lack of volume of races needed to establish a good figure, but you can also find some weaknesses in everyday tracks in North America too. A few speed points here and there I can deal with, but not a 4 or 5 second difference

Springfield used to be a real speed burner. I have not followed Illinois racing for awhile, but the quality of racing stock has really deteriorated in recent years. Just look at the entries at Maywood and Balmoral and lot of other tracks, all you find is non winner lifetime races. Speed rating should only be one factor in your handicap. The average race goer only knows best time, that horse will usually be the favorite. Knowing a bad favorite is a key to winning.....

[harness2008]

Without a doubt, it was just a red flag for me when I was perusing the lines, I personally delve more deeply into it besides just taking a look at the speed fig. The casual racegoer may on the other hand would have no idea how to decipher this.

[harness2008]

I didnt involve myself this week in the contest but I'll be playing these three races today at Balmoral.

1st race # :8: BRING IT ALL

2nd race # :4: LENOX BLUE CHIP

3rd race # :3: ALEQUASH HOTSPUR

[LottaKash]

IA discrepancy of this type obviously has to do with the fact that these are state fair races and thus any fig earned in this type of venue may be considered suspect due to a lack of volume of races needed to establish a good figure,.........

That is why I usually don't even pay attention to the speed ratings for "Fair Tracks" , not to mention not even some "regular tracks" ,as well...In fact, when I think long and hard about it, I don't even pay much attention to speed ratings at all in my handicapping, as the way I assess the meaningful time slices of a race, it makes it plain enough to me, how fast or slow they may have been going, speed rating or not.....

I have found that certain track to track speed ratings, when compared, are quite unreliable at times....Especially when a horse is going from a 1/2 miler to a bigger track....I do not know why that is, tho....I just don't use SR's much in my handicapping, and I don't think it has kost me much, if any, kash lately, so I keep it that way....Meaining when I lose a bet, I would always be hard pressed to believe that it was the SR that made the difference....I catch nice winners, beating better S-Rated horses, all the time...

[EdZone]

Two of my picks scratch. Beware if your horse scratch, you win nothing as it won't pay your money back.

[David Siegel]

I wanted to give a quick reply to the well-written comment about the Speed Ratings for a horse named Monopoly Man that were much lower in two Springfield races, than recent Balmoral Races. The horse had been racing in the mid-80s at Bmlp (with a high of 90) and dropped to 63 and 67 at Springfield on 8/15 and 8/10. He then came back to Balmoral and ran a 76 on 8/31. The main explanation is that the particular races he was in at Springfield were really slow relative to the rest of the day at that track. If the entire day was slow, our track variant process would have accounted for that. We can never know for sure if the field ran particularly slow due to a very weak or controlled pace, or if the track crew did something for that one race (when the do something over a number of races, we can measure that). In this case, look at the race AFTER the "slow" race 11, and this explains what went in, at least in part. The 11th was for 3 year olds and went in 1:53.4 The next race (under a fast track as well) for 2 year olds went in 1:50.0. The race went a whopping 19 speed rating points faster and for 2-year olds! Speed ratings are not prefect, but they are pretty good overall and my guess in this case was that the 11th race just happened to unfold slowly. On top of that it was likely that Monopoly Man was just losing form, as his next was a 76 or say 12 points faster than at Springfield. So this is a 2-3 second explanation and based on the time for the race on 8/15 relative to the race after, is plausible. I spent time to make sure our process worked as it should, and it did. We can never get variants perfect as we cannot know what a crew may due race to race. We look at the day in its entirety to assign variants to each race. This is why we coach people to look at 5-10 recent Speed Ratings and use those as the best indicator of a horses typical ability.

There is a ton that goes into making Speed Ratings. There is a detailed, 30 minute tutorial on what we do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGGJdHX4dpQ. There is more on our web site and I am happy to answer questions as well.

I tried to attach the charts from the 2 races I have referred to and hopefully it shows up.

[EdZone]

Saturday, September 7

Pocono Downs......R1....2 Stonebridge Cowboy 5/1
Pocono Downs......R7....6 Competition Cam 15/1
Pocono Downs......R13..8 Alsacd Hanover 4/1
Yonkers Raceway..R2...2 Panda Bear 10/1
Yonkers Raceway..R5...4 Rollwithharry 10/1

[Ray2000]

Saturday 9/7


Race #12 at Pocono Downs #4 SOME LIKE IT HOT for $100
Race #14 at Pocono Downs #4 UNCLE GOODFELLOW for $100
Race #3 at Yonkers Raceway #2 THESEYESRCRYING for $100
Race #9 at Yonkers Raceway #2 PANCETTA for $100
Race #15 at Pocono Downs #4 ARSENAL for $100

GLA

[mrroyboy]

Thank you Dave. Good to know you stand by your product

[tiger rose]

my last stab

Y 3 #6 Rockstar Temper
Y 5 #3 Lyons Joesph Jnr
Y 6 #7 Hillbilly Hanover
Y 8 #5 Chicago Hanover
Y 9 #1 Nob Hill High

[mrroyboy]

Here is your list of your wagers for 09/07/2013


Race #2 at Pocono Downs on Program Number 4 which is GENERAL MACK for $100
Race #4 at Pocono Downs on Program Number 3 which is TAMAYO for $100
Race #5 at Pocono Downs on Program Number 6 which is CARD HUSTLER for $100
Race #7 at Yonkers Raceway on Program Number 6 which is FLEM N EM N for $100
Race #6 at Yonkers Raceway on Program Number 4 which is CHINA GRILL for $100

Click here (http://www.trackmaster.com/contest) to return to the contest home page.

[LottaKash]

My last hurrah....Trying to pick longshots ahead of time, turns out to be a tough beat for me....I always try to get my bargain prices, but knowing them ahead of time, has eluded me for years, it seems...


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[Overcall]

Race #5 at Pocono Downs on Program Number 7 which is BAGEL MAN for $100
Race #2 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 6 which is NORTHWESTERNDREAMS for $100
Race #5 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 9 which is ATOMIC REI for $100
Race #6 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 9 which is PARADISE STATION for $100
Race #12 at Hoosier Park on Program Number 3 which is IDEAL CHOICE for $100

glta

[mrroyboy]

Well None of you guys picked the same horses as I did. Don't know if that's good or bad!!!

[Muddy]

Hoosier Park 3 #1RA RA STEVEN 2nd @ 18-1

Hoosier Park 4 #1ELECTRIC ALBERT last as the fav 1.80-1

Hoosier Park 5 #2SUNDAY POKER 2nd @ 25-1

Hoosier Park 6 #6JJ'S GAZETTE 3rd @ 1.30-1

Hoosier Park 13 #9SWAN IN A MILLION winner @ 8.90-1

Well there is always next time. Almost got a couple nice ones home.

[EdZone]

Overcall.. nice call on Pocono R5 #7 Bagel Man.
I've check all 5 racetrack result. Bagel Man is the longest shot (23/1) of all 5 tracks. Almost of them is the favourite Win tonight.
It seems you have very good chance to qualify to final. ;)

[Overcall]

Thanks Edzone...hope ur right....was a lot of chalk tonight. Cought the 4th exacta at Mhk...12/1 and a 6/1 and it pays less than $40! The late P4 = $24. Did you see Scd? Terrible prices, and P4 ~ $50, Same with Bal. Strange night.

[Ray2000]

How about a Place Contest next time, TM ? :D

SOME LIKE IT HOT.........otb at 7/2
UNCLE GOODFELLOW .....Placed at 32/1
ARSENAL......................otb at 9/2
THESEYESRCRYING........Placed at 4/1
PANCETTA...................Placed at 4/1



Good Luck to Harness2008 and all PACEADVANTAGE people who made it to the finals.

[harness2008]

Ray, throw some of your good luck my way, I'm going to need it. Even though I also carry the self proclaimed moniker of mrharnessracing, there is a ton luck involved. I'll try to represent Pace Advantage well.

[LottaKash]

I'll try to represent Pace Advantage well.

Your do that Harness, make us proud....:jump: ...Congrats !..:ThmbUp:

I'll be watching and rooting for you guys.....:jump: :jump: :jump:

[EdZone]

Ouch! I got Rank #6. Miss by a nose :( no luck to go to final.

[Charlie]

Also ouch! Had a 40-1 shot win, but couldn't connect with another winner. 2 of my other selections finished 2nd. I believe I was in 10th place this week. Somewhat disappointed, but nevertheless wish all the PA finalists good luck.

[harness2008]

A tough day to not have a solid opinion on much but I went with these in the finals. The horses that I do have a solid opinion on will be chalk which is not the way to win these contests. Good luck to all the others on the final day.

mrharnessracing

Balmoral 3rd :5: KATE THE GREAT

Balmoral 7th :3: SPORTS FANATIC

Balmoral 10th :5: DRUNK ON YOU

Hoosier Park 7th :3: ROBIN I SCOOT

Hoosier Park 11th :3: ER MELVIN

[wle]

With the Jug coming up, there are some horrible races to pick from tonight. At least I have one winner so far, which is one more than I had in last year's finals. Good luck to all who are also in.


Track Race # Prog # Horse Wager Results? Payoff Total Paid
Balmoral Park 4 3 JUST BY DESIGN
Hoosier Park 9 3 ITRUSTYOU
The Red Mile 10 2 THROUGH MY EYES
Yonkers Raceway 4 5 MR COOLIE
Yonkers Raceway 8 1 ROCK TO GLORY