Question about Timonium

[wiffleball whizz]

August 23-sept 2 they are racing at the timonium fairgrounds.....I know there are plenty of Maryland fair grizzled veterans I'm reading you can only get in via paying $8 for fair admission.....it says track included in the $8....

People have to have angles around this....I'm there to gamble not pay $8 admission,..I'm not cheap out don't like paying $8 admission and $3 parking...if it was 1 day is deal with it but I'm looking to go the whole meet.....11x10=110!!

Anybody going to this meet?

[proximity]

one year i dressed up like a horse and snuck in the side.... :)

[Mineshaft]

get an racing license maybe as a groom or owner and get in that way on the backside. Would that work?

[wiffleball whizz]

When I was younger I'd jump the half bent over fence at Yonkers to avoid the $4 admission....I usually always had passes to get into Monmouth and meadowland...there has to be a way to sneak into the racetrack portion of the fair

I'd love to hear stories of how people used to beat admission/parking prices....I'm sure everybody had there own stories

[lamboguy]

get an racing license maybe as a groom or owner and get in that way on the backside. Would that work?racing licenses in maryland run about $350.

[proximity]

what we really need is for caesar's to take over the fair so we can park for free with our platinum cards!!

i will say that penn gaming has somewhat conditioned me for those $4.00 timonium sodas though. :D seriously, i forgot how expensive timonium can be.

[ronsmac]

this was one of the reasons I stopped going to ti monium years ago. it was always my favorite of all the Maryland tracks. even though the racing isn't as good as it used to be in the fields are small it's still a fun experience so I recommend you go at least one or two times.

[wiffleball whizz]

what we really need is for caesar's to take over the fair so we can park for free with our platinum cards!!

i will say that penn gaming has somewhat conditioned me for those $4.00 timonium sodas though. :D seriously, i forgot how expensive timonium can be.

Sounds like -30sville before you even make a play!!

Wow and your platinum for as few as time as you come down here?!

[Track Collector]

I expect to be there at least 7 of the 10 days. Most assuredly this will include both Fridays, both Saturdays, and Labor Day Monday. Any day PA members plan to go, they can join me in the Simulcast Area on the second level of the grandstand. It has A/C, decent tables and chairs, and a sizable no smoking area. The chairs and tables can be moved around as desired. The Simulcast area is also right next to a newly furnished bar area from which food can be ordered and taken out. Cover charge for the Simulcast area is $2, but well worth it. I can leave my laptop in there when I go outside to watch the live races.

As to lowering your admission cost, there are corporate sponsors (M&T Bank, Toyota, Pepsi, etc.) who I believe offer free day passes. I have been fortunate enough to have a stranger give me one outside the admission gate from time to time, but I'm not sure how to secure these day passes in advance. One year I did go into the fair office, and the secretary gave me a few. I have tried the M&T Bank route, but my local branch could not find out any further info. Perhaps some other Timonium veterans can tell us what they do.

For the days that I plan to attend, I'll be glad to get there early to save some tables and chairs for anyone else wanting to join me. I'll put up a thread close to opening day (08/23) to see who is interested.


Chris

[CincyHorseplayer]

I told the people at Turfway I'd give them $20 a day to sit in the seat I sat in for 5 years on the 4th floor and I was told no.I haven't been back since!

[Track Collector]

racing licenses in maryland run about $350.

A multi-jurisdiction owners license purchased at the Charles Town races costs $66 for the first year, then can be renewed each of the next four years for $30. ;)

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[proximity]

Sounds like -30sville before you even make a play!!

Wow and your platinum for as few as time as you come down here?!

wish i was still gold. :(

as for tim, it is a bit pricey, but usually +ev if you can avoid those rigged games over at the fair section. visiting the nice farm animals exhibit is the winning move!!

[Mineshaft]

racing licenses in maryland run about $350.


for a one year license cost $350?


where im from its $25 a year for an owners license.

[nijinski]

Just donate and think of all the money you're saving not being at the casino . LOL.

[wiffleball whizz]

wish i was still gold. :(

as for tim, it is a bit pricey, but usually +ev if you can avoid those rigged games over at the fair section. visiting the nice farm animals exhibit is the winning move!!

I was gold from then I got to 5k tier points then I realized they had tier bonuses...I put in double header 500 tier point sessions which came to 1000 + 1000 bonus tier credits I got the 10k in a week for a total of 15k for diamomd..Via 5 cent slots....wish I didn't

How since then haven't been to any Caesar property exept to get slot play....I took diamomd card to trade in for black card and been going these since....they give me all the free racing forms I want and free parking and lounge acess for 10 points....To be honest I think I got diamomd the weekend you were here

[wiffleball whizz]

Wonder after the fair will there be a fast stop for food and then a road to double header to chuckytown?!?!?!?

I better slow down it will be a month without a paycheck for me at this point...

I really can't wait for this fair!!

[proximity]

....then I realized they had tier bonuses...

hopefully I never realize that.:D

also for Timonium, hopefully the racing will start to get better this year. I agree with ronsmac's post though that it's still a good day of racing to experience at least once or twice. :ThmbUp:

[iceknight]

People have to have angles around this....

Anybody going to this meet? You post so much at PA (here) that you could get Mike's blessing and then go to the Timonium fair office and tell them you are representing the Press - as a regular reporter for Paceadvantage.com. and seek a free press pass..


Thenn all you have to do it continue posting - wait, why am I even encouraging you to post.. :lol: :lol:

[wiffleball whizz]

You post so much at PA (here) that you could get Mike's blessing and then go to the Timonium fair office and tell them you are representing the Press - as a regular reporter for Paceadvantage.com. and seek a free press pass..


Thenn all you have to do it continue posting - wait, why am I even encouraging you to post.. :lol: :lol:

If could post on Facebook or text the gf or friends I can sure as hell post and chat here about gambling!!!!!! In 3 years I have 22 posts on the "garbage racing site" and about 60 in 4 years on the "hot air poker forum"......this site makes you wanna post

Hey PA can you make a phone call to the fair office and throw the boys here a bone?! No reason to bang good members here a big admission price....were there to bet money not pet pigs and see the worlds biggest snake or 3 headed turtle :D

[proximity]

You post so much at PA (here) that you could get Mike's blessing and then go to the Timonium fair office and tell them you are representing the Press - as a regular reporter for Paceadvantage.com. and seek a free press pass..
:lol: :lol:

it's a longshot, but maybe he can get in using his Maryland gaming license??:confused:

also you probably won't see any stakes races there (maybe a 25k dash) but your girlfriend and her friends might like the atmosphere a little more than pen. you can walk back and forth freely to the state fair and the track is smaller with a cozy racing environment.

[Track Collector]

Wonder after the fair will there be a fast stop for food and then a road to double header to chuckytown?!?!?!?

I better slow down it will be a month without a paycheck for me at this point...

I really can't wait for this fair!!

I will be doing Tim/CT doubleheaders as well. With Timonium adding racing on Thursday, there will now be 5 doubleheaders available. On Sunday (08/25) they are currently scheduled to race head to head. On Labor Day Monday, it looks like Timonium is the show, unlike other years when they were head to head. Last year field sizes were respectable, but I'm a bit concerned this year with Timonium picking up an additional 3 race days. Maybe they will lessen the number of races on the less popular days of the week, but I hope not.

I-70 at exit 68 has a number of fast food places. The Maryland Food Court (down inside the fair) has great selections as well, but you need to hustle so that you do not miss any live races.

Rough directions from Timonium to Charles Town:
I-83 South (for about 1 mile)
I-695 West (towards Pikesville)
I-70 West (towards Frederick)
At Frederick, take 15/340 South, then stay to the right on 340 when they split off after about 3 miles.
This will take you to the backside entrance of the CT track.
The usual time from Tim to CT (with "normal" slow traffic and backups) is about 1.75 hours.

Several spots have slow traffic and/or backups, particularly on weekdays, so one needs to get away very quickly from Timonium after the last race if you want to make Charles Town's first race post of 7:15 p.m.

Hey, I thought I was the one who is supposed to get excited about fair horseracing. :)


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[proximity]

I will be doing Tim/CT doubleheaders as well....

I was a little concerned about the mere possibility that you might miss three days of Timonium!! :D

but with the doubleheaders..... my faith has been restored!:)

[Track Collector]

I was a little concerned about the mere possibility that you might miss three days of Timonium!! :D

but with the doubleheaders..... my faith has been restored!:)

With this year's Timonium/Charles Town schedule, I might find out it really is possible to Overdose on live racing. :faint:

Fortunately the (tired of racing) feeling goes away after about day or two. :D

BTW, last year I DID miss the last 4 days of racing at Timonium. I had no choice if I wanted to add racing at Elko, Nevada to my track collection list.




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[wiffleball whizz]

With this year's Timonium/Charles Town schedule, I might find out it really is possible to Overdose on live racing. :faint:

Fortunately the (tired of racing) feeling goes away after about day or two. :D

BTW, last year I DID miss the last 4 days of racing at Timonium. I had no choice if I wanted to add racing at Elko, Nevada to my track collection list.




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Although you won't get much gambling in you can swing a quadruple header or even more...

Parx -->harrahs Philly--->Delaware--->timonium by 4pm---> hit the Charlestown races at night......might even be able to squeeze in some rosecroft!!

You should go for it.....I'm sure you would be the first person to attend live racing at 5 different tracks in a day....maybe even 6!!!! Nobody could ever take that away from you!!!!

Delaware--> timonium--->Charlestown = cakewalk tripleheader

[Rise Over Run]

Although you won't get much gambling in you can swing a quadruple header or even more...

Parx -->harrahs Philly--->Delaware--->timonium by 4pm---> hit the Charlestown races at night......might even be able to squeeze in some rosecroft!!

You should go for it.....I'm sure you would be the first person to attend live racing at 5 different tracks in a day....maybe even 6!!!! Nobody could ever take that away from you!!!!

Delaware--> timonium--->Charlestown = cakewalk tripleheader

I don't think the 5-bagger is possible due to track schedules. Harrahs doesn't run on Saturdays and Delaware doesn't run on Sunday, plus the CT Sunday cards are at 1PM which would make it almost impossible because of the travel.

I actually may try this on Saturday August 24th: Parx, Delaware Park, Timonium Fair, Charles Town.

[wiffleball whizz]

I don't think the 5-bagger is possible due to track schedules. Harrahs doesn't run on Saturdays and Delaware doesn't run on Sunday, plus the CT Sunday cards are at 1PM which would make it almost impossible because of the travel.

I actually may try this on Saturday August 24th: Parx, Delaware Park, Timonium Fair, Charles Town.

It doesn't get any better then that!!!

I guess it would be possible on that Saturday to do this cuz time does allow for it but again it would only be a race or 2 max...

Start at mth.....
Drive to parx
Parx to Delaware...
Delaware to timonium
Timonium to Charlestown....

Again not a easy day but one you may go down in history for....I don't think anybody has ever done it before all straight horses....it might be easier in Florida with dogs and jai alai mixed in

[Rise Over Run]

I didn't even factor Monmouth into the equation. I'm about 1 hour southwest from Monmouth in the Mount Holly area. I started looking into the possibilities, but I don't think it's possible to get down to Timonium before their last race. Starting from Monmouth with first post at 12:50 I probably couldn't get to Timonium until ~5PM.

Each leg of travel for MP -> Parx -> Del ->Tim is about 1 hr and 15 min

[wiffleball whizz]

I didn't even factor Monmouth into the equation. I'm about 1 hour southwest from Monmouth in the Mount Holly area. I started looking into the possibilities, but I don't think it's possible to get down to Timonium before their last race. Starting from Monmouth with first post at 12:50 I probably couldn't get to Timonium until ~5PM.

Each leg of travel for MP -> Parx -> Del ->Tim is about 1 hr and 15 min

Your right I don't trust traffic from Delaware to timonuim....I'm not a expert on this traffic but seems like Baltimore can be a nightmare...

I remember leaving pimlico about a month ago on a rainy Friday around 515 didn't get to ac till about 10

The parx del Tim CT might be a safe quadruple header which I may have never been done before

[iceknight]

Come to think of it.. I might do Parx this Saturday or Sunday... going to be in philly,, why not check it out..

Wiff.. or any other parx regulars here?

[wiffleball whizz]

Come to think of it.. I might do Parx this Saturday or Sunday... going to be in philly,, why not check it out..

Wiff.. or any other parx regulars here?

In my life I've lost over a 1000 5 times in my life....been to parx since it was a casino 6 times.....went for a g-whiz 4 times.....can't win gambling there

Not sure if anybody is a parx reg here in my opinion the place is nothing to write home about but is nice for simulcast bettors.....one thing I do like is the exacta matrix boards above all the tellers on small tvs

Parx horror story I'm playing 15/30 poker I got pocket 5s....flop comes 556 2 hearts turn is a 7 of hearts river is a 8 of hearts....make a long story short I was 3rd man on the totum pole.....the one clown had the 4 of hearts the other the 9 of hearts...sad part was after the flop I saw these 2 cards coming out that's what a black cat I am at parx

[proximity]

Parx horror story I'm playing 15/30 poker I got pocket 5s....flop comes 556 2 hearts turn is a 7 of hearts river is a 8 of hearts....make a long story short I was 3rd man on the totum pole.....the one clown had the 4 of hearts the other the 9 of hearts...sad part was after the flop I saw these 2 cards coming out that's what a black cat I am at parx

at least the betting was capped. :rolleyes:

btw, anyone know if they have wireless internet at parx?

[wiffleball whizz]

at least the betting was capped. :rolleyes:

btw, anyone know if they have wireless internet at parx?

As of march they didn't....you could prob search this topic on the big poker forum...i dont mention other names on here....i don't go on there anymore :D :D :cool:

[cj's dad]

Be prepared for 1st turn breakdowns.

And if you drink any beer other that Anheuser-Busch products, you are S--t out of luck.

[thespaah]

August 23-sept 2 they are racing at the timonium fairgrounds.....I know there are plenty of Maryland fair grizzled veterans I'm reading you can only get in via paying $8 for fair admission.....it says track included in the $8....

People have to have angles around this....I'm there to gamble not pay $8 admission,..I'm not cheap out don't like paying $8 admission and $3 parking...if it was 1 day is deal with it but I'm looking to go the whole meet.....11x10=110!!

Anybody going to this meet?
See if they have a 'season pass'..

[thespaah]

I told the people at Turfway I'd give them $20 a day to sit in the seat I sat in for 5 years on the 4th floor and I was told no.I haven't been back since!
Not sure I follow...

[thespaah]

In my life I've lost over a 1000 5 times in my life....been to parx since it was a casino 6 times.....went for a g-whiz 4 times.....can't win gambling there

Not sure if anybody is a parx reg here in my opinion the place is nothing to write home about but is nice for simulcast bettors.....one thing I do like is the exacta matrix boards above all the tellers on small tvs

Parx horror story I'm playing 15/30 poker I got pocket 5s....flop comes 556 2 hearts turn is a 7 of hearts river is a 8 of hearts....make a long story short I was 3rd man on the totum pole.....the one clown had the 4 of hearts the other the 9 of hearts...sad part was after the flop I saw these 2 cards coming out that's what a black cat I am at parx
So you flop into two pairs of 5's and not only are you not the best hand, you're third best....Un freaking real.
Worse yet, how would you like to have been the guy with the 4 of hearts?
BTW, did the guy with 4/hearts even make it to the river card? If he did, I bet he shoved a lot of chips into that pot....Ya gotta figure the odds of two straight flushes in the same hand has got to be pretty slim.

[wiffleball whizz]

So you flop into two pairs of 5's and not only are you not the best hand, you're third best....Un freaking real.
Worse yet, how would you like to have been the guy with the 4 of hearts?
BTW, did the guy with 4/hearts even make it to the river card? If he did, I bet he shoved a lot of chips into that pot....Ya gotta figure the odds of two straight flushes in the same hand has got to be pretty slim.

The hand was out of a science fiction novel.....and to be honest I played the hand so bad i didn't even lose that much....

Remember this is a limit game so you can't lose everything.....I called before the flop it cost $15.....after the flop obviously I'm not betting with 20 miles of fun "4 fives" so that was a no betting round.....

When the turn came I planed on check raising but nobody bets as I was first person to open betting.....so that was a blessing in disguise...

River comes to make it 4 cards to a straight flush like a idiot I bet 30 next guy calls next guy makes it 60 then next guy makes it 90....at this point I know im dead and wasn't going for 60 more so I chucked them....

Just a messed up hand.....happens more often then you think in limit games but it's just my luck at that place.....if I was in a different spot on table I lose 300 in the hand but I was trying to trap people and lost the bare min....

Poker....I hate it

Oh and as I edit this using 1 card to make the straight flush Really makes the odds less big........if we all used 2 cards it would be in the billions and it has happened many times before....2 straight flushed and the 4 of a kind gets piss...in terms of the bad beat jackpot

[wiffleball whizz]

Be prepared for 1st turn breakdowns.

And if you drink any beer other that Anheuser-Busch products, you are S--t out of luck.

I guess it's a dangerous bullring....

Anyshot of you making a celebrity appearance?

I'm taking anheuser Busch products are bud and bud light.....I see people get bottles of straight up Budweiser I shake my head why somebody would get that when there are 100 kinds of other drinks....

Lately when I go to the borgata Racebook they serve you any kind of liquor or bottle you want and what do I get..............coors light :bang:

[thespaah]

The hand was out of a science fiction novel.....and to be honest I played the hand so bad i didn't even lose that much....

Remember this is a limit game so you can't lose everything.....I called before the flop it cost $15.....after the flop obviously I'm not betting with 20 miles of fun "4 fives" so that was a no betting round.....

When the turn came I planed on check raising but nobody bets as I was first person to open betting.....so that was a blessing in disguise...

River comes to make it 4 cards to a straight flush like a idiot I bet 30 next guy calls next guy makes it 60 then next guy makes it 90....at this point I know im dead and wasn't going for 60 more so I chucked them....

Just a messed up hand.....happens more often then you think in limit games but it's just my luck at that place.....if I was in a different spot on table I lose 300 in the hand but I was trying to trap people and lost the bare min....

Poker....I hate it

Oh and as I edit this using 1 card to make the straight flush Really makes the odds less big........if we all used 2 cards it would be in the billions and it has happened many times before....2 straight flushed and the 4 of a kind gets piss...in terms of the bad beat jackpot
Yep Limit games limit strategy. The size of a player's stack cannot be used as an effective weapon. Check raises are tougher to use as a means to run people out of the pot.
Yes, that is one for the bad beat thread.
Have a friend who played in a no limit tournament in Vermont with a $300 buy in. He was in the final 6 players. He has J-J...Everyone limps in. He raises.
One folds the others call. The flop is 2-7-J..He goes all in. Three others fold and and the other guy calls. The turn is an over card...like a Q or K ...The river is a 7...I guess you can see where this is going. If your poker radar is on, you know the story. Dumbass luck the other guy has 2-7 as his hole cards.
Who the hell plays like that? The guys draws a boat 7's over 2's..My buddy was ready to tear out his hair....It is what it is.

[wiffleball whizz]

Is there any other gambling at the fair? I know usually there ripoffs but do they have the worst odds in the world money/dice wheel? Maybe the loaded dice game where u gotta throw a higher number then the house whose using loaded dice (Pennsylvania firehouse fairs) And the ever popular Canadian crowns and anchors game!! All rip offs

[pele polo]

A multi-jurisdiction owners license purchased at the Charles Town races costs $66 for the first year, then can be renewed each of the next four years for $30. ;)

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RCI multi-jurisdictional licenses have been pretty much bogus so far as I've still had to pay the stste's individual fee as well.

I think it's misleading because if you get an RCI one state you still have to apply and pay fees in a second state.

[cj's dad]

Originally Posted by cj's dad
Be prepared for 1st turn breakdowns.

And if you drink any beer other that Anheuser-Busch products, you are S--t out of luck.



Anyshot of you making a celebrity appearance?

I usually go once a year and if I remember correctly, I have met PA members there. Probably going on Labor Day weekend- kep me posted

[Track Collector]

RCI multi-jurisdictional licenses have been pretty much bogus so far as I've still had to pay the stste's individual fee as well.

I think it's misleading because if you get an RCI one state you still have to apply and pay fees in a second state.

I was not aware of that.

No problem for me though....I'm not in a position to make an investment for awhile anyway.

[proximity]

Yep Limit games limit strategy. The size of a player's stack cannot be used as an effective weapon. Check raises are tougher to use as a means to run people out of the pot.
Yes, that is one for the bad beat thread.
Have a friend who played in a no limit tournament in Vermont with a $300 buy in. He was in the final 6 players. He has J-J...Everyone limps in. He raises.
One folds the others call. The flop is 2-7-J..He goes all in. Three others fold and and the other guy calls. The turn is an over card...like a Q or K ...The river is a 7...I guess you can see where this is going. If your poker radar is on, you know the story. Dumbass luck the other guy has 2-7 as his hole cards.
Who the hell plays like that? The guys draws a boat 7's over 2's..My buddy was ready to tear out his hair....It is what it is.

:confused:

[wiffleball whizz]

:confused:

Hahahahahahaha Just noticed that.....maybe 7s full beat jacks full at that place!!! I'm guessing a typo

But as for stacks not mattering in limit that's really not the case....you can bluff in limit people sometimes don't realize that....u always see in a 20/40 game guys with 2000 in red in front of then they just keep blasting away....

[ronsmac]

this thread is making me want to go back to timonium. I cashed my first ticket as a 12 or 13 year old there. do any of you locals remember Michael's lad? I guess I'll fork up the $8 or whatever it is to get in to go at least once this year.

[wiffleball whizz]

Im thinking timonuim is gonna be a great time this year.....as proximity said I come to the conclusion that I'm gonna show my Maryland gaming license and roll rite in......the people I will be living with went for there ba*** at ac racetrack this year after I taught them the science of the tri key!!!

Actually as I edit this I just remembered maybe the place I work will have some free fair admissions for friends and family....if this is the case and I think it may be based on prior county fairs which the casino I worked at was in Ill be getting everybody in for free......just call me when your out by the gate!! Don't wanna see anybody paying 8 fish to get in

[Segwin]

one year i dressed up like a horse and snuck in the side.... :)

HA!

[Track Collector]

Don't wanna see anybody paying 8 fish to get in

Money saved in admission costs means more money to play the races with, which in turn have the potential to be turned into winnings. :jump:

Still 36 days until the first race, so I need to "pace" my excitement level. :D


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[DeltaLover]

One of my wishes is for NYRA to impose an entry fee to Aqueduct which due to the free entrance has become a magnet for any kind of a bum. I think even a $5 entrance whould have done the job....

[proximity]

I'm guessing a typo
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yeah, looking back at it the j on the flop was probably supposed to be a 9 or something. in my experience I've seen those two pair 7-2 flops counterfeited so many times that I can't even believe anyone would think it's worth it.

don't get too crazy about Timonium. the five horse fields of turf, layoff, and negative class drop horses can get old real fast. then throw in a scratch or two.... :sleeping:

[proximity]

this thread is making me want to go back to timonium. I cashed my first ticket as a 12 or 13 year old there. do any of you locals remember Michael's lad? I guess I'll fork up the $8 or whatever it is to get in to go at least once this year.

when i'm not watching maryland eye candy stroll past or standing in line for a $4.50 pepsi I sometimes think of the guy who turned pro there in the one andy beyer book. lost two photo finishes and like half his bankroll. took the other half and went to community college.

[wiffleball whizz]

One of my wishes is for NYRA to impose an entry fee to Aqueduct which due to the free entrance has become a magnet for any kind of a bum. I think even a $5 entrance whould have done the job....

I would have no problem paying admission if the sign said "$10 to keep the riff raff out".......go to Woodbridge otb in nj they have the highest riff raff per capita then any other betting establishment....the voucher vultures and 10 percenters swarm everytime a irs ticket is rumored to hit.......

After next Saturday I'll be living at my fathers house next to Woodbridge otb and I will take pix of the Tuesday night trash that's in there...I get 2 weeks of this garbage before I move south...

My friend and get got yelled at for rooting loud one night but at the same time the mutual managers and security guards promote the bums that sit around taking up space and wait to 10 percent for somebody.......makes no sense

[Track Collector]

Actually field sizes last year based on 7 race days were pretty decent, with the following:

4 Horses --> 2 races
5 Horses --> 4 races
6 Horses --> 12 races
7 Horses --> 15 races
8 Horses --> 10 races
9 Horses --> 6 races
10 Horses --> 2 races


The distance breakouts were:

4f --> 22 races
*6.5f --> 20 races
8.0f --> 4 races
8.5f --> 5 races
* = About distance

A few years ago they used to have 2 stakes races near the end of the meet, with purses between $35K and $50K for each race. Maybe with the additional (slots) funding this year, some stakes races might return.

For the last two years, I only remember 1 breakdown, so it has improved over the years.

No one has mentioned it yet, but for many years on the far straightaway near the turn they used to have both a big and small ferris wheel, which the horses had to have seen coming down the backstretch. Last year I think only the smaller one was there. (These and the seriously banked turns help to make Timonium the unique place it is.).


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[Track Collector]

One more thing to get you excited about Timonium. They have been racing almost as long as Saratoga and Pimlico, with their first races held in 1887. It was initially harness races, which were replaced by the "flat" races at the turn of the century. They did experience some tough times over the years, and racing almost ended in 1984.

I'm glad they found a way to survive, and hope they are here for many more years. :)


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[ronsmac]

One more thing to get you excited about Timonium. They have been racing almost as long as Saratoga and Pimlico, with their first races held in 1887. It was initially harness races, which were replaced by the "flat" races at the turn of the century. They did experience some tough times over the years, and racing almost ended in 1984.

I'm glad they found a way to survive, and hope they are here for many more years. :)


... Timonium is just a fun place to watch a horse race, granted the racing is not great neither is the field size, but its just a fun experience. it reminds me of going to the New England fares with my dad as a teenager when I lived in New York.

[wiffleball whizz]

Question.....is there a tote board in the infield or is it like Atlantic city where it's a guessing game from when you walk outside to watch the race till you see a tv screen?

Or this the tote board one one of those that are on wheels

[ronsmac]

Question.....is there a tote board in the infield or is it like Atlantic city where it's a guessing game from when you walk outside to watch the race till you see a tv screen?

Or this the tote board one one of those that are on wheels
I haven't been there in about 9 years, but they always had a tote board before then

[Track Collector]

Timonium is just a fun place to watch a horse race, granted the racing is not great neither is the field size, but it s just a fun experience. it reminds me of going to the New England fairs with my dad as a teenager when I lived in New York.

I was lucky enough to have attended 3 of them from the now-defunct New England fair circuit. Northampton was my all-time favorite track. I was also able to attend Great Barrington, and Brockton (which still has a very tiny chance of running again.).

As to Timonium, they still have a permanent tote board in the infield. It is probably vintage 1950's or 1960's where instead of the WPS pool info rotating one cycle at a time, one can see each of the 3 separate pools at ANY time. This is helpful for those who like to look for ineffeciencies in the Place and/or Show pools.


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[ronsmac]

I was lucky enough to have attended 3 of them from the now-defunct New England fair circuit. Northampton was my all-time favorite track. I was also able to attend Great Barrington, and Brockton (which still has a very tiny chance of running again.).

As to Timonium, they still have a permanent tote board in the infield. It is probably vintage 1950's or 1960's where instead of the WPS pool info rotating one cycle at a time, one can see each of the 3 separate pools at ANY time. This is helpful for those who like to look for ineffeciencies in the Place and/or Show pools.


... what no Marshfield fair

[Track Collector]

what no Marshfield fair

I missed my one and only chance. I was in Boston in 1991 and had planned to attend. Hurricane David hit on the weekend. The following day the track was fine, but racing was cancelled due to no electrical power. Then I had to return home.

In 1992, Foxboro ran a one-year thoroughbred meet, with dates traditionally given to Marshfield. The fellow in charge of Marshfield was so angry, he tore up part of the track and made it a parking lot. So 1991 was the last year for Marshfield. :(

If wiffleball whizz thinks Timonium will be neat, he REALLY would have enjoyed the MA fair circuit.


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[wiffleball whizz]

Never been to a Fair with horse racing in my life....really can't wait..!!

I used to live in Edison nj there is a half mile harness track right next to rutgers football stadium they say they used to race horses there though non wagering...a friend many years ago had a horse stabled at Johnson park in Piscataway and I saw a painting in the barn that said the greatest drivers in the world drove here.........I gotta see if I can find anything on this

[wiffleball whizz]

Is there Anyshot of a timonuim contest of some sort track collector?!??

And being there is some other fair talk going on have you been to the humboldt county fair at ferndale? I remember in 2009 I just got my house and direct tv I put on tvg and they had ferndale on I couldn't believe what I was seeing....tbreds and mules....the next nite I'm at Foxwoods I'm firing away literally on mules....and they were actually mules......I'm in disbelief this doesn't get talked about more.....and are they really racing flats on a half mile track?!?! Is that a half mile track?!?!?!???

[racingfan378]

Wheeling Downs which is now Wheeling Island greyhound track was a half mile oval. Here is a picture of the place before it burned down. They called it Mini Churchill.

They went from TB racing, to harness to now greyhounds since 1976

[Track Collector]

Great picture racingfan378!

[Track Collector]

Is there Anyshot of a timonuim contest of some sort track collector?!??

And being there is some other fair talk going on have you been to the humboldt county fair at ferndale? I remember in 2009 I just got my house and direct tv I put on tvg and they had ferndale on I couldn't believe what I was seeing....tbreds and mules....the next nite I'm at Foxwoods I'm firing away literally on mules....and they were actually mules......I'm in disbelief this doesn't get talked about more.....and are they really racing flats on a half mile track?!?! Is that a half mile track?!?!?!???

Sorry, but the contests are mapped out a year in advance. While I love Timonium, I'm not sure it would have appeal to those others who regularly participate in the PA contests.

Yes, I attended Ferndale in 1999. Watching and betting on the mule races was fun as well. My track-collecting friend from NY has not been there yet, so a repeat visit for me is likely in the next few years. Timonium is a 5/8 mile oval, but Ferndale and a number of other racing fairs out West are still 1/2 mile ovals for thoroughbred races. Ferndale is the only CA track that is 1/2 mile, but states like Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Arizona, North Dakota, and South Dakota still have them. They are a dying breed, so one needs to get them in while they are still there. (One now-gone track in Anthony, Kansas used to alternate horse races on their outer 1/2 mile track and dog races on their inner 1/4 mile dog track!).

The Ferndale visit was another example where I missed for good the chance to add another track to my visit list. I stayed in Ferndale several days, passing on the long drive to visit the races in Salem, OR. It happened to be Salem's last year of racing at the fair.

[wiffleball whizz]

Sorry, but the contests are mapped out a year in advance. While I love Timonium, I'm not sure it would have appeal to those others who regularly participate in the PA contests.

Yes, I attended Ferndale in 1999. Watching and betting on the mule races was fun as well. My track-collecting friend from NY has not been there yet, so a repeat visit for me is likely in the next few years. Timonium is a 5/8 mile oval, but Ferndale and a number of other racing fairs out West are still 1/2 mile ovals for thoroughbred races. Ferndale is the only CA track that is 1/2 mile, but states like Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Arizona, North Dakota, and South Dakota still have them. They are a dying breed, so one needs to get them in while they are still there. (One now-gone track in Anthony, Kansas used to alternate horse races on their outer 1/2 mile track and dog races on their inner 1/4 mile dog track!).

The Ferndale visit was another example where I missed for good the chance to add another track to my visit list. I stayed in Ferndale several days, passing on the long drive to visit the races in Salem, OR. It happened to be Salem's last year of racing at the fair.

Yeah these tourneys are a lot of work for you guys....can't believe how u had the results today up so early....I'm not attacking this pool the right way I'm foreign to these contests....I go 3/3 and made up some ground I guess with a even money 5/2 and 7/2 winner....Ill learn eventually...

Cj's dad said yesterday about breakdowns at tim which I Definitly believe but how bout the breakdowns on a half at ferndale....flats on a half has to be a recipe for broken cannon bones on horses....very sad

Hoping for a safe Tim meet coming up

[ronsmac]

I missed my one and only chance. I was in Boston in 1991 and had planned to attend. Hurricane David hit on the weekend. The following day the track was fine, but racing was cancelled due to no electrical power. Then I had to return home.

In 1992, Foxboro ran a one-year thoroughbred meet, with dates traditionally given to Marshfield. The fellow in charge of Marshfield was so angry, he tore up part of the track and made it a parking lot. So 1991 was the last year for Marshfield. :(

If wiffleball whizz thinks Timonium will be neat, he REALLY would have enjoyed the MA fair circuit.


... my dad and I did the Marshfield, North Hampton, Great Barrington circuit two years in a row. probably the most fun I've ever had at the racetrack. on the last day of each meet on the way home we stopped at the dog track that night

[ronsmac]

I missed my one and only chance. I was in Boston in 1991 and had planned to attend. Hurricane David hit on the weekend. The following day the track was fine, but racing was cancelled due to no electrical power. Then I had to return home.

In 1992, Foxboro ran a one-year thoroughbred meet, with dates traditionally given to Marshfield. The fellow in charge of Marshfield was so angry, he tore up part of the track and made it a parking lot. So 1991 was the last year for Marshfield. :(

If wiffleball whizz thinks Timonium will be neat, he REALLY would have enjoyed the MA fair circuit.


... I agree with you 100 percent,whizz would have loved the mass. Fairs. I don't care if I lose my shirt at Timonium, I haven't been in approximately 10 years. It's long overdue.

[wiffleball whizz]

I got my work sked today and it looks like I'm off opening day at the little T.....

[lamboguy]

I missed my one and only chance. I was in Boston in 1991 and had planned to attend. Hurricane David hit on the weekend. The following day the track was fine, but racing was cancelled due to no electrical power. Then I had to return home.

In 1992, Foxboro ran a one-year thoroughbred meet, with dates traditionally given to Marshfield. The fellow in charge of Marshfield was so angry, he tore up part of the track and made it a parking lot. So 1991 was the last year for Marshfield. :(

If wiffleball whizz thinks Timonium will be neat, he REALLY would have enjoyed the MA fair circuit.


...the racing commissioner GARY PIANTOWSKI at that time closed down Marshfield, he wound up general manager of Foxboro.

[wiffleball whizz]

the racing commissioner GARY PIANTOWSKI at that time closed down Marshfield, he wound up general manager of Foxboro.

Oh you mean this guy?????!!!!!!!!?????

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/07/26/track-partner-says-piontkowski-pulled-fast-one/z1wDtmF7zlGEFW5hLJNX7I/story.html


Tons of integrity!!

[proximity]

I will probably go down to stay at c-town the first or second Thursday and Friday. so if t-coll or any our c-town members want to ride over with me the Friday I go you are certainly welcome to.

[ronsmac]

Oh you mean this guy?????!!!!!!!!?????

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/07/26/track-partner-says-piontkowski-pulled-fast-one/z1wDtmF7zlGEFW5hLJNX7I/story.html


Tons of integrity!!Some of the races at those fairs were so obviously crooked, that they made 3/5 look like a gift sometimes to quote ed burgart. as crazy as it sounds as a teenager, oh and they did let 14 year olds bit at the windows by the way, I never had a losing meet at any of the three fairs back to back yrs. I wish I could say the same for the rest of my horse racing career.

[thespaah]

Never been to a Fair with horse racing in my life....really can't wait..!!

I used to live in Edison nj there is a half mile harness track right next to rutgers football stadium they say they used to race horses there though non wagering...a friend many years ago had a horse stabled at Johnson park in Piscataway and I saw a painting in the barn that said the greatest drivers in the world drove here.........I gotta see if I can find anything on this
The NJ Fair circuit used to be big time. It would run all summer.
Egyptian Acres( Stand Dancer's farm) in New Egypt, BIG Z farm in Montague, Johnson Park, Gaitway in Millstone,etc...This was the showcase circuit for NJ Breds. None were Pari mutuel but the racing was fun and the crowds were large.

[ronsmac]

I got my work sked today and it looks like I'm off opening day at the little T.....
I wish I could go opening day. I'm definitely going the first Saturday and Sunday. if its anything like I remember, then I'll be going the following Saturday Sunday and Labor Day also.