Cali Steward told "Apologize to Stra"

[nijinski]

from the article :

“Kayla Stra's baby can be in the jocks' room. Her nanny can be with the baby. And both the mother and the nanny can do all the things they need to do. The CHRB will not tolerate discrimination in any form against anyone for any reason. No special rooms. No one goes to the back of the damn bus. Period. In order for a new mother to do her job, certain accommodations need to be made. We clearly do not have a nursery at any of our race tracks, and I don't expect them to be constructed any time soon. Not only can a jockey also be a mother, I'd like to encourage women to consider the possibility and the profession. It is the right thing to do and it is good business.

“Reach out to Stra right now, call her in, straighten this out, restore full rights in the jock's room, and then put her on the phone with me so I can apologize to her on behalf of the CHRB. Thank you.”

http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2013/ju...s-breast-feed/

Would love to know how the stewards took this?

[johnhannibalsmith]

...

Would love to know how the stewards took this?

If I was riding with her, I'd sure be claiming foul every time she breathed near me and potentially cost me a placing. :D

Gotta go with Israel on this one.

The link in your post doesn't seem to work, maybe this one will:

http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jul/07/kayla-stra-diapers-breast-feed/

[Stillriledup]

Nobody cares which Steward said that she has to be a jockey or a mother?

[PaceAdvantage]

I guess Kayla isn't going to get any close calls going her way anytime soon up in the booth...

[nijinski]

If I was riding with her, I'd sure be claiming foul every time she breathed near me and potentially cost me a placing. :D

Gotta go with Israel on this one.

The link in your post doesn't seem to work, maybe this one will:

http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jul/07/kayla-stra-diapers-breast-feed/

Thanks for the link help .

I don't know a lot about Israel but that was a strong statement .

[iceknight]

“That’s what upset me the most,” Stra said. “At that time I didn’t know anything about the state work place law that allows women to (breast-feed) their babies and have them at work if they have to. I was feeding my baby in my car before that.”

This is the telling part. Thankfully she was nt forced to use a restroom.

[PaceAdvantage]

Playing Devil's advocate...are women really allowed to bring a crying baby to work with them and just hang out with it all day? I would think that would be a bit disruptive to the workplace, no?

How is that any different here? If I were another female jock, the last thing I really want is to go back to the jocks room after a race and deal with a crying baby...

[GMB@BP]

Playing Devil's advocate...are women really allowed to bring a crying baby to work with them and just hang out with it all day? I would think that would be a bit disruptive to the workplace, no?

How is that any different here? If I were another female jock, the last thing I really want is to go back to the jocks room after a race and deal with a crying baby...

On top of that is a jocks room the best place for a baby? Lots of spitting up going on in a jocks room I guess so it fits.

[Stillriledup]

I guess Kayla isn't going to get any close calls going her way anytime soon up in the booth...

The judges are going to be totally professional, this has no bearing at all on how they call an inqury.

How did you like my Vic impersonation, pretty good, eh? :D

[Stillriledup]

Fwiw, Stra is a "Headley" and they are related to Ingrid Fermin who used to be a big shot at the CHRB. Not sure what Ingrid is up to these days, but its interesting that the CHRB came to Kayla's "rescue" with a very strong statement to the stewards.

[iceknight]

Playing Devil's advocate...are women really allowed to bring a crying baby to work with them and just hang out with it all day? I would think that would be a bit disruptive to the workplace, no?

How is that any different here? If I were another female jock, the last thing I really want is to go back to the jocks room after a race and deal with a crying baby... yes and no.. there is discretion allowed..


http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/RestAndMealPeriods.pdf (page 2)

[proximity]

“Hats off to the CHRB and Commissioner Israel for doing the right thing,” wrote horse racing and gambling watchdog Andy Asaro. “This is what the public wants to see from the CHRB and the Leadership. This is an outstanding move by the CHRB.”


general gambling too??
is a.m. going to lobby for reduced poker rake at hol now??:eek:

[PaceAdvantage]

Asaro and Stein in the same article...shocking...

[PhantomOnTour]

Wouldn't it be nice if Big Papi brought Little Papi to the ballpark with him every day?

Seriously though - pro tennis player Kim Clijsters had a baby - don't know if she took time off or brought the lil tot on tour with her.

[iceknight]

Playing Devil's advocate...are women really allowed to bring a crying baby to work with them and just hang out with it all day? I would think that would be a bit disruptive to the workplace, no?

How is that any different here? If I were another female jock, the last thing I really want is to go back to the jocks room after a race and deal with a crying baby... yes and no.. there is discretion allowed..


http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/RestAndMealPeriods.pdf (page 2)


oh and this is slightly off topic, but does anyone else think that when Kayla Stra (img (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Kayla+Stra&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=EFD55CC02310B21847AF5E7E2C0E55812FB87FD7&selectedIndex=0) ) looks similar to Nicole Tubiola (safe images (http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Wi_Wp/Wildfire/crops/wildfire-nicole-tubiola12.jpg) )?

[PaceAdvantage]

oh and this is slightly off topic, but does anyone else think that when Kayla Stra (img (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Kayla+Stra&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=EFD55CC02310B21847AF5E7E2C0E55812FB87FD7&selectedIndex=0) ) looks similar to Nicole Tubiola (safe images (http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Wi_Wp/Wildfire/crops/wildfire-nicole-tubiola12.jpg) )?Ummmm...nope...

[taxicab]

I think Steward Kim Sawyer dropped the ball on this one.
Jockey KS was not bothering anybody with her baby.
She had her baby in the female jockeys room, with a nanny for said baby.
Simply put, what's the big deal ?
I'll never understand why people make something out of nothing.
Here's a little bit of a push for Kim Sawyer.........Be nice,it's not the hardest thing in the world to do.

[johnhannibalsmith]

... the last thing I really want is to go back to the jocks room after a race and deal with a crying baby...

I change the television station if one comes on. I leave the room if one occupies the same space as me. I'd raise hell if I were a female jock... wait, that might be okay... no, I'd raise hell if I had to listen to all that...

But in this case, based on the allegations (which a lot of it is), some of the statements alleged to have come from the stews (a stew) were just silly at best and not what needs to be coming from regulators speaking on behalf of their grumpy old man industry. However it was ultimately dealt with, Israel pretty much had to rebut what was alleged to have come from his stews' mouth.

[proximity]

lol, they are so quick to right this wrong about a crying baby while I see their simulcast schedule remains a joke......

[nijinski]

I change the television station if one comes on. I leave the room if one occupies the same space as me. I'd raise hell if I were a female jock... wait, that might be okay... no, I'd raise hell if I had to listen to all that...

But in this case, based on the allegations (which a lot of it is), some of the statements alleged to have come from the stews (a stew) were just silly at best and not what needs to be coming from regulators speaking on behalf of their grumpy old man industry. However it was ultimately dealt with, Israel pretty much had to rebut what was alleged to have come from his stews' mouth.
Rumor is the stewards act came after a complaint , again that's rumor
and I doubt anyone in the jocks room will own up to it at this point .

[nijinski]

Playing Devil's advocate...are women really allowed to bring a crying baby to work with them and just hang out with it all day? I would think that would be a bit disruptive to the workplace, no?

How is that any different here? If I were another female jock, the last thing I really want is to go back to the jocks room after a race and deal with a crying baby...
I agree with that and if multiple jocks bring their baby to work it can start to get a bit tense . I see a nursery coming to Cali tracks :lol:
There are no nannies or babies at all ever allowed at the institution I work at .

The track is different and I guess the jockey is on their own contract . I
don't know how the laws apply to them .

[proximity]

Rumor is the stewards act came after a complaint , again that's rumor
and I doubt anyone in the jocks room will own up to it at this point .

probably an anonymous call from a nanny sick of driving the kid out to a track that (in the year 2013) only shows races 1-3 from lone star and 1-4 from pen even on a night when they start four hours after pen.

[johnhannibalsmith]

probably an anonymous call from a nanny sick of driving the kid out to a track that (in the year 2013) only shows races 1-3 from lone star and 1-4 from pen even on a night when they start four hours after pen.

:lol:





(text included to not piss off management)

[nijinski]

probably an anonymous call from a nanny sick of driving the kid out to a track that (in the year 2013) only shows races 1-3 from lone star and 1-4 from pen even on a night when they start four hours after pen.
They may have created new jobs . Track Nanny !

[Stillriledup]

Wouldn't it be nice if Big Papi brought Little Papi to the ballpark with him every day?

Seriously though - pro tennis player Kim Clijsters had a baby - don't know if she took time off or brought the lil tot on tour with her.

Speaking of Big, Big DADDY, Cecil Fielder, brought little Prince to Yankee stadium and Prince was hitting them into the upper deck at 13 years old, or, some other very young age.

[Stillriledup]

lol, they are so quick to right this wrong about a crying baby while I see their simulcast schedule remains a joke......

RIGHT? You can bet only a certain amount of races, while the entire country has full card simo.

For example, Any So Cal racing fan who wanted to bet on Game on Dude at Charlestown wasnt allowed to, you had to have a phone account or drive to Las Vegas in order to get a bet down on the Dude.

[proximity]

Speaking of Big, Big DADDY, Cecil Fielder, brought little Prince to Yankee stadium and Prince was hitting them into the upper deck at 13 years old, or, some other very young age.

the stra baby had better hurry up if it wants to duplicate that feat at Hollywood, lol.

[Robert Goren]

yes and no.. there is discretion allowed..


http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/RestAndMealPeriods.pdf (page 2)


oh and this is slightly off topic, but does anyone else think that when Kayla Stra (img (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Kayla+Stra&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=EFD55CC02310B21847AF5E7E2C0E55812FB87FD7&selectedIndex=0) ) looks similar to Nicole Tubiola (safe images (http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/S_Z/Wi_Wp/Wildfire/crops/wildfire-nicole-tubiola12.jpg) )? I thought this issue was resolved over 20 years ago. It was covered a Manager's Manual I got in 2001 when a new company took over where I was a manager. I am amazed that this stuff could still happen today. I guess there are more people than I though still living in 1980.

[Stillriledup]

the stra baby had better hurry up if it wants to duplicate that feat at Hollywood, lol.

"Paulieman" is going to have to find another lake to hit baseballs into!

You're correctamundo, Hol is on its last legs i'm afraid to say.

[Stillriledup]

I thought this issue was resolved over 20 years ago. It was covered a Manager's Manual I got in 2001 when a new company took over where I was a manager. I am amazed that this stuff could still happen today. I guess there are more people than I though still living in 1980.

Is it any wonder that someone from the racing industry doesnt' realize its not 1980 anymore? :(

[proximity]

Is it any wonder that someone from the racing industry doesnt' realize its not 1980 anymore? :(

lol, 1980 technology is George jetson to this industry of dinosaurs.

[Stillriledup]

lol, 1980 technology is George jetson to this industry of dinosaurs.

I dont want to start an entire different topic, but its amazing to me how when people talk about late odds changes and "bad prices" and odd betting patterns and short payoffs and whatnut, the defenders will rush in and say "its a fair price" and yet, when stuff like this happens, when we make the 1980s references, everyone almost universally nods in agreement that racing in deeply behind the times....well, except tote security, they're not still in 1980 with tote security, they're in 2013, its just all the other less techincal stuff they're not up to date about. :(

[proximity]

I dont want to start an entire different topic,........ . :(

you're right. we've gotta keep this baby on track. (pun intended):D

[wiffleball whizz]

you're right. we've gotta keep this baby on track. (pun intended):D

Lolololololololol

[proximity]

Lolololololololol

you need to set up one of your betting pools based on this thread. i'm thinking maybe some kinda distant future money line? s.r.u. making it to 50k posts here on p.a. vs the stra baby becoming a juice trainer and reaching ed bain 4+30 status.... which comes first???

[Stillriledup]

you need to set up one of your betting pools based on this thread. i'm thinking maybe some kinda distant future money line? s.r.u. making it to 50k posts here on p.a. vs the stra baby becoming a juice trainer and reaching ed bain 4+30 status.... which comes first???

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where's exchange wagering when you need it!!

[proximity]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where's exchange wagering when you need it!!

lol, I can actually see you (possibly posting under the name riledupagain or something) resuscitating this thread in like nineteen years or so when the stra baby is going Jamie ness on some unsuspecting circuit.

[iceknight]

lol, I can actually see you (possibly posting under the name riledupagain or something) resuscitating this thread in like nineteen years or so when the stra baby is going Jamie ness on some unsuspecting circuit. While this is in good humor, I hope we can speculate for better things for a young baby - than becoming a suspect trainer like Jamie Ness. Maybe the baby grows up to be a smart scientist?

[Tom]

Is that the best place for baby to be spending the day?

[iceknight]

Is that the best place for baby to be spending the day?
It is better to spend time closer to the mother in intervals than being at a remote day care with some nanny/preschool teacher type person. (this is not just my opinion, but research from childhood development specialists)

[proximity]

While this is in good humor, I hope we can speculate for better things for a young baby - than becoming a suspect trainer like Jamie Ness. Maybe the baby grows up to be a smart scientist?

"well, the world needs ditch diggers too..." -judge smails, caddyshack

certainly we all have the best of hopes for the promise that this young life holds, but for here and now all we know is that the formative years will be spent somewhere other than inglewood....

[affirmedny]

lol, they are so quick to right this wrong about a crying baby while I see their simulcast schedule remains a joke......

Amazing how fast things get rectified when they realize there might possibly be grounds for a discrimination lawsuit.......

[wiffleball whizz]

"well, the world needs ditch diggers too..." -judge smails, caddyshack

certainly we all have the best of hopes for the promise that this young life holds, but for here and now all we know is that the formative years will be spent somewhere other than inglewood....

If anybody on here is giving 20/1 I sat Hollywood races in 2015....lots of tracks had the reaper at the door but avoided it for some time....

Atlantic city was buried With no pulse

Bay meadows was buried for a while and kept breathing but has died

Arlington was dead meat and got resurrected from the grave

Sorry cj ;) rosecroft was shut down and flatlined now is in full swing(sorry about the harness comment but is good example)

Rockingham park is on the verge of awakining from the grave

Those are just what I can think of off hand

If I was getting 20/1 or 10/1 I'd take it all day....too many tracks are left for dead and come back to life......Hollywood=not dead yet

[wiffleball whizz]

you need to set up one of your betting pools based on this thread. i'm thinking maybe some kinda distant future money line? s.r.u. making it to 50k posts here on p.a. vs the stra baby becoming a juice trainer and reaching ed bain 4+30 status.... which comes first???

SRU is a 24/7 posting machine.....he's the only person on here that is posting at 4:45am With me.....

SRU asks the questions that need to be asked on here!!!!

[nijinski]

Amazing how fast things get rectified when they realize there might possibly be grounds for a discrimination lawsuit.......

I thought of that too , the word "discrimination" is a powerful one .

[nijinski]

Fwiw, Stra is a "Headley" and they are related to Ingrid Fermin who used to be a big shot at the CHRB. Not sure what Ingrid is up to these days, but its interesting that the CHRB came to Kayla's "rescue" with a very strong statement to the stewards.

You are right ,Gus Headley is the Daddy of her baby .

[racingfan378]

I love Kayla and personally think she doesn't get a lot of good mounts in general....

But I have to say, a child does not belong in the workplace no matter what the profession

God forbid she got hurt one race and didn't return to the jocks room. What do you say to the kid now (once he/she) got old enough to understand.

[SandyW]

I love Kayla and personally think she doesn't get a lot of good mounts in general....

But I have to say, a child does not belong in the workplace no matter what the profession

God forbid she got hurt one race and didn't return to the jocks room. What do you say to the kid now (once he/she) got old enough to understand.

Despite what anybody thinks, California law protects all mothers including Kayla:

Cal. Civil Code § 43.3 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=civ&group=00001-01000&file=43-53) (1997) allows a mother to breastfeed her child in any location, public or private, except the private home or residence of another, where the mother and the child are otherwise authorized to be present. (AB 157)
Cal. Code of Civil Procedure § 210.5 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&group=00001-01000&file=190-237) (2000) requires the Judicial Court to adopt a standardized jury summons for use, which must include a specific reference to the rules for breastfeeding mothers. 2000 Cal. Stats., Chap. 266 (AB 1814) (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/99-00/bill/asm/ab_1801-1850/ab_1814_bill_20000831_chaptered.pdf) created the law and directs the Judicial Council to adopt a rule of court to allow the mother of a breastfed child to postpone jury duty for a period of up to one year and that after one year, jury duty may be further postponed upon written request by the mother. See California Rules of Court, Trial Court Rules, Rule 2.1006 (http://www.courts.ca.gov/7260.htm?title=two).
Cal. Health and Safety Code § 1647 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=01001-02000&file=1647-1648) (1999) declares that the procurement, processing, distribution or use of human milk for the purpose of human consumption is considered to be a rendition of a service rather than a sale of human milk. (1999 Cal. Stats., Chap. 87; AB 532)
Cal. Health and Safety Code § 1648 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=01001-02000&file=1647-1648) requires a hospital that collects, processes, stores or distributes human milk collection from a mother exclusively for her own child to comply with the standards for collection, processing, storage or distribution of human milk by the Human Milk Banking Association of North America unless the department of health approves alternate standards. No screening tests are required to be performed on human milk collected from a mother exclusively for her own child.
Cal. Health and Safety Code § 123360 et seq. (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=123001-124000&file=123360-123365) and § 1257.9 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=01001-02000&file=1250-1264) require the Department of Public Health to include in its public service campaign the promotion of mothers breastfeeding their infants. The department shall also develop a training course of hospital policies and recommendations that promote exclusive breastfeeding and specify staff for whom this model training is appropriate. The recommendation is targeted at hospitals with exclusive patient breastfeeding rates ranked in the lowest twenty-five percent of the state. To the extent that funding is available, the law requires the Department of Public Health to expand the breastfeeding peer counseling preogram at local agency California WIC sites. The law also requires all general acute care hospital and hospitals providing maternity care to make available a breastfeeding consultant or provide information to the mother about where to receive breastfeeding information. (2007 Chapter 460, SB 22 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/sen/sb_0001-0050/sb_22_bill_20071011_chaptered.pdf))
Cal. Labor Code § 1030 et seq. (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=lab&group=01001-02000&file=1030-1033) (2001) provides that employers need to allow a break and provide a room for a mother who desires to express milk in private.
Cal. Assembly Concurrent Resolution 155 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/97-98/bill/asm/ab_0151-0200/acr_155_bill_19980901_chaptered.html) (1998) encourages the state and employers to support and encourage the practice of breastfeeding by striving to accommodate the needs of employees, and by ensuring that employees are provided with adequate facilities for breastfeeding and expressing milk for their children. The resolution memorializes the governor to declare by executive order that all state employees be provided with adequate facilities for breast feeding and expressing milk.

[BetCrazyGirl]

This is from one of the articles that is in this thread. That looks like discrimination to me. I wonder if anyone had told any of the male jockeys that they need to pick between being a father or a jockey.

" Stra said the stance on her and her baby were inconsistent. She had asked if she could bring her baby into the common area for jockeys, where male and female jockeys may be together between races. She saw David Flores and his wife and baby in there, but she was told she couldn’t take her baby in there."

[pondman]

It's a ******* BABY! Nobody wants to deal with a ******* BABY! Can you imagine getting the hell beat out of you while riding a favorite. The fans, trainer, and owner are all pissed off at you. And you are trying to shake it off in the Jockey's room and having to listen to a wailing BABY! What she going to do in 8 months when it's starts running around, throwing whips, goggles, and helmets?

KS has won 6 total races in 2013. Her lifetime U.S. win record is 120 total. She'd make more money pouring coffee at Starbucks. This is LA where the average house sell for $600k. Think before you have a BABY!

[iceknight]

Think before you have a BABY!

Grow up. and don't speak for others when you say "fans" don't like it etc. Stick to your opinion.

Also, I thought a lot before saying this.... " I wish your mother had "thought before having you".
you are welcome.

[Stillriledup]

It's a ******* BABY! Nobody wants to deal with a ******* BABY! Can you imagine getting the hell beat out of you while riding a favorite. The fans, trainer, and owner are all pissed off at you. And you are trying to shake it off in the Jockey's room and having to listen to a wailing BABY! What she going to do in 8 months when it's starts running around, throwing whips, goggles, and helmets?

KS has won 6 total races in 2013. Her lifetime U.S. win record is 120 total. She'd make more money pouring coffee at Starbucks. This is LA where the average house sell for $600k. Think before you have a BABY!



I don't think i would explain it as animated as you did, I understand where you are coming from...people who have chosen to NOT have kids are 'forced" for lack of a better word, do "deal with" other people's kids noise levels out in public while businesses (restaurants for example) seem to turn a blind eye to this.

Plenty of parents with screaming kids seem to "not care" that their kids are annoying other people....we have all had to deal with hearing screaming brats on occasion and i could probably count on one hand how many times the parent did something about it, maybe take the kid outside the restaurant or finding another way to keep the brat quiet, you rarely see the parent spring into action showing concern for the people who don't want to have to listen to that noise.

Unfortunately, this is just one part of life that childless adults have to deal with that kind of 'stinks'.

[SandyW]

It's a ******* BABY! Nobody wants to deal with a ******* BABY! Can you imagine getting the hell beat out of you while riding a favorite. The fans, trainer, and owner are all pissed off at you. And you are trying to shake it off in the Jockey's room and having to listen to a wailing BABY! What she going to do in 8 months when it's starts running around, throwing whips, goggles, and helmets?

KS has won 6 total races in 2013. Her lifetime U.S. win record is 120 total. She'd make more money pouring coffee at Starbucks. This is LA where the average house sell for $600k. Think before you have a BABY!



IT'S THE LAW, WHAT PART OF THIS DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, IT'S THE LAW.

[OCF]

It's a ******* BABY! Nobody wants to deal with a ******* BABY! Can you imagine getting the hell beat out of you while riding a favorite. The fans, trainer, and owner are all pissed off at you. And you are trying to shake it off in the Jockey's room and having to listen to a wailing BABY! What she going to do in 8 months when it's starts running around, throwing whips, goggles, and helmets?

KS has won 6 total races in 2013. Her lifetime U.S. win record is 120 total. She'd make more money pouring coffee at Starbucks. This is LA where the average house sell for $600k. Think before you have a BABY!



good grief, i like your posts Pondman but you need to relax

[CryingForTheHorses]

They may have created new jobs . Track Nanny !


I think this woman has every right to take her baby and nanny into the jocks room...The baby was being breastfed..Some backsides and I do believe Arlington Park has something like this for the backstretch workers for their kids.Im surprised that a female steward would say something like that (if she did) Maybe being a mother herself.With the amount of female jocks riding ,I hardly think this was a inconvinence to anyone!..

[CryingForTheHorses]

It's a ******* BABY! Nobody wants to deal with a ******* BABY! Can you imagine getting the hell beat out of you while riding a favorite. The fans, trainer, and owner are all pissed off at you. And you are trying to shake it off in the Jockey's room and having to listen to a wailing BABY! What she going to do in 8 months when it's starts running around, throwing whips, goggles, and helmets?

KS has won 6 total races in 2013. Her lifetime U.S. win record is 120 total. She'd make more money pouring coffee at Starbucks. This is LA where the average house sell for $600k. Think before you have a BABY!





WOW..Not only do you have child deficiency syndrome,You seem to have NO respect for a young lady trying to make a living.I detest guys like you who want to knock others who are trying so hard to make it.This lady puts her life on the line when she rides and all you think about is how good she isnt and a screaming baby...I call that NO RESPECT

[nijinski]

I think this woman has every right to take her baby and nanny into the jocks room...The baby was being breastfed..Some backsides and I do believe Arlington Park has something like this for the backstretch workers for their kids.Im surprised that a female steward would say something like that (if she did) Maybe being a mother herself.With the amount of female jocks riding ,I hardly think this was a inconvinence to anyone!..

It was a joke . I happen to like her and have heard only good things said about her from those who've met Kayla .
There are no accommodations for Mom's with babies in any of the facilities I've worked at but since there is time between races for jocks , it's not like being on the same clock . It should work and hopefully all will be happy .
We'll see what happens . I can see points for all sides , but if the other jocks are ok with it then it's not a big deal . I haven't heard any feedback from their end .

[Stillriledup]

WOW..Not only do you have child deficiency syndrome,You seem to have NO respect for a young lady trying to make a living.I detest guys like you who want to knock others who are trying so hard to make it.This lady puts her life on the line when she rides and all you think about is how good she isnt and a screaming baby...I call that NO RESPECT

I think he has respect, he just doesnt want to deal with someone else's crying kid, you can't blame him for that, right? Maybe if some of these parents (not saying Kayla is one of them) would keep their kids quiet and show some respect to society, they can get some respect in return. You gotta give a little respect to get some.

We're all trying hard to make it, every last one of us, nobody gets more 'credit' than someone else for "trying hard to make it". We are all in the same boat.

[iceknight]

I think he has respect, he just doesnt want to deal with someone else's crying kid, you can't blame him for that, right? Maybe if some of these parents (not saying Kayla is one of them) would keep their kids quiet and show some respect to society, they can get some respect in return. You gotta give a little respect to get some.

We're all trying hard to make it, every last one of us, nobody gets more 'credit' than someone else for "trying hard to make it". We are all in the same boat. There is a difference between a baby and a kid. I am not sure I understand your line of thinking. In this topic, pondman was way out of line thrusting his opinion into how someone else should lead their life when all of their actions are perfectly legal.
If the poster did not take it upon himself to decide for the whole society, what needs to be done (that's what legislature, democratic process and laws are for, remember?) then rebuttal opinions would not have been so strong. Granted, no extra credit need be given for someone working on their career, but blatant obstacles that are illegal need not be placed in their way. That is what this discussion has been about.

[pondman]

IT'S THE LAW, WHAT PART OF THIS DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, IT'S THE LAW.

Sure it is!

Next time you want someone to put your burning house out-- hope they don't have a baby in their arms. Next time you need to be protected by a burglar-- hope they don't have a baby in their arms. Next time you get on a jet-- hope they don't have a baby in their arms. Next time someone gets on a 1,200 lb animal--l hope they don't have a baby in their arms.

Name 1 job where people bring their kids to work?

Postal worker?
Teacher?
Retail?
Government?

Name 1...

[pondman]

WOW..Not only do you have child deficiency syndrome,You seem to have NO respect for a young lady trying to make a living.

If you had an ounce of human decency, you would tell a young woman with a child to get as far away from S. Cal racing as she could get. She is not going to make it in S. Cal. Find something else to do in life where your child does not suffer.

[Stillriledup]

If you had an ounce of human decency, you would tell a young woman with a child to get as far away from S. Cal racing as she could get. She is not going to make it in S. Cal. Find something else to do in life where your child does not suffer.

She's a good enough rider where she could be riding numerous horses per day somewhere else at a smaller circuit, if winning races and money is her top priority, she would search around the country for a track with an extremely weak jock colony and try her hand at that place.

She could probably make more money as an actress in So Cal than a jockey, she's already been a 'tv star' on the show jockeys. :D

[pondman]

Grow up. and don't speak for others when you say "fans" don't like it etc. Stick to your opinion.
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Fans will boo the crap out of a jockey in S. Cal. There is no tougher business than the Thoroughbred Industry in S. Cal. Not only do they got to be the greatest jockeys in the world, but they've got to have a iron mental capacity. If Pat V. can't do it-- it should tell you something. But there are delusional people in the world that just won't accept the game for what it is.

[castaway01]

I think he has respect, he just doesnt want to deal with someone else's crying kid, you can't blame him for that, right? Maybe if some of these parents (not saying Kayla is one of them) would keep their kids quiet and show some respect to society, they can get some respect in return. You gotta give a little respect to get some.

We're all trying hard to make it, every last one of us, nobody gets more 'credit' than someone else for "trying hard to make it". We are all in the same boat.

How do you know any of these things happened, or is this just your usual BS? What crying kid is he dealing with? Who didn't give who respect? Where do you get this stuff?

[pondman]

How do you know any of these things happened, or is this just your usual BS? What crying kid is he dealing with? Who didn't give who respect? Where do you get this stuff?

How much time have you spent around high end racing? I've seen jockeys tumbling out of the jockey's room in S. Cal, in a full brawl. I've seen jockeys smashing each other in S. Cal. Do you not understand that riding thoroughbreds in S. Cal is the most stressful job in the world? Why bring a baby into that? If you can't find someone to baby sit, then you probably shouldn't be riding.

[pondman]

She's a good enough rider where she could be riding numerous horses per day somewhere else at a smaller circuit,. :D

No doubt she can make a living in racing. She's can ride mornings in S. Cal. Doesn't matter where see goes, she's got to compete for mounts. And do you think a trainer is going to ride her if she's carrying a baby around. It's not going to happen in the Big leagues. These people want your full attention when you get on a horse.

[Stillriledup]

No doubt she can make a living in racing. She's can ride mornings in S. Cal. Doesn't matter where see goes, she's got to compete for mounts. And do you think a trainer is going to ride her if she's carrying a baby around. It's not going to happen in the Big leagues. These people want your full attention when you get on a horse.

If she's the best available option, i doubt any trainer is going to care one way or another.

[pondman]

If she's the best available option, i doubt any trainer is going to care one way or another.

Trainers in S. Cal? They're worrying about winning and their workman's comp payments. Yeah, I hear the chatter. The facility has to accommodate her. But the trainers will tell her to go find something else to do. This isn't a nice business for jockey's who can't produce.

[Stillriledup]

Trainers in S. Cal? They're worrying about winning and their workman's comp payments. Yeah, I hear the chatter. The facility has to accommodate her. But the trainers will tell her to go find something else to do. This isn't a nice business for jockey's who can't produce.

No, i was talking theoreticals if she went out of town to ride somewhere there was a weaker colony.

[Fager Fan]

How do you know any of these things happened, or is this just your usual BS? What crying kid is he dealing with? Who didn't give who respect? Where do you get this stuff?

You really think the baby doesn't cry or need diaper changes? It's a human baby, right?

If you read all the articles, you'll see that Stra was given a private room in addition to being allowed in the women's jock room. This, however, wasn't enough for her. She also wanted the baby and nanny to go into the common room shared by both the male and female jockeys. Now the entire jockey colony is forced to deal with a crying and pooing baby.

She got her way, and everyone applauds. I think she's very inconsiderate of others to force her baby on them at their work when she's been given perfectly reasonable accommodations. I notice that she and her husband didn't make a nursery out of his barn office.

[Robert Goren]

Without getting to right or wrong of it, nursing babies in the work place are a fact and have been for quite sometime. When the baby stops nursing, the baby leaves the work place to a day care. They claim it is health issue, mother's milk and a lot of stuff like that. Anyway it is the law and employers have to deal with it.

[Fager Fan]

Without getting to right or wrong of it, nursing babies in the work place are a fact and have been for quite sometime. When the baby stops nursing, the baby leaves the work place to a day care. They claim it is health issue, mother's milk and a lot of stuff like that. Anyway it is the law and employers have to deal with it.

You're wrong, but you're hardly the only one who is confused about the laws concerning this.

Federal law (http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs73.htm) only demands that a nursing mom be allowed to take non-paid breaks (if not only using paid breaks) to pump her milk, and she has to be given a private area in which to pump. There is no requirement that employers must allow the babies to be in the workplace.

[SandyW]

You're wrong, but you're hardly the only one who is confused about the laws concerning this.

Federal law (http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs73.htm) only demands that a nursing mom be allowed to take non-paid breaks (if not only using paid breaks) to pump her milk, and she has to be given a private area in which to pump. There is no requirement that employers must allow the babies to be in the workplace.



California has added to the Federal laws to protect all mothers including Kayla:

Cal. Civil Code § 43.3 (1997) allows a mother to breastfeed her child in any location, public or private, except the private home or residence of another, where the mother and the child are otherwise authorized to be present. (AB 157)

Cal. Code of Civil Procedure § 210.5 (2000) requires the Judicial Court to adopt a standardized jury summons for use, which must include a specific reference to the rules for breastfeeding mothers. 2000 Cal. Stats., Chap. 266 (AB 1814) created the law and directs the Judicial Council to adopt a rule of court to allow the mother of a breastfed child to postpone jury duty for a period of up to one year and that after one year, jury duty may be further postponed upon written request by the mother. See California Rules of Court, Trial Court Rules, Rule 2.1006.

Cal. Health and Safety Code § 1647 (1999) declares that the procurement, processing, distribution or use of human milk for the purpose of human consumption is considered to be a rendition of a service rather than a sale of human milk. (1999 Cal. Stats., Chap. 87; AB 532)

Cal. Health and Safety Code § 1648 requires a hospital that collects, processes, stores or distributes human milk collection from a mother exclusively for her own child to comply with the standards for collection, processing, storage or distribution of human milk by the Human Milk Banking Association of North America unless the department of health approves alternate standards. No screening tests are required to be performed on human milk collected from a mother exclusively for her own child.

Cal. Health and Safety Code § 123360 et seq. and § 1257.9 require the Department of Public Health to include in its public service campaign the promotion of mothers breastfeeding their infants. The department shall also develop a training course of hospital policies and recommendations that promote exclusive breastfeeding and specify staff for whom this model training is appropriate. The recommendation is targeted at hospitals with exclusive patient breastfeeding rates ranked in the lowest twenty-five percent of the state. To the extent that funding is available, the law requires the Department of Public Health to expand the breastfeeding peer counseling preogram at local agency California WIC sites. The law also requires all general acute care hospital and hospitals providing maternity care to make available a breastfeeding consultant or provide information to the mother about where to receive breastfeeding information. (2007 Chapter 460, SB 22)

Cal. Labor Code § 1030 et seq. (2001) provides that employers need to allow a break and provide a room for a mother who desires to express milk in private.

Cal. Assembly Concurrent Resolution 155 (1998) encourages the state and employers to support and encourage the practice of breastfeeding by striving to accommodate the needs of employees, and by ensuring that employees are provided with adequate facilities for breastfeeding and expressing milk for their children. The resolution memorializes the governor to declare by executive order that all state employees be provided with adequate facilities for breast feeding and expressing milk.

[castaway01]

How much time have you spent around high end racing? I've seen jockeys tumbling out of the jockey's room in S. Cal, in a full brawl. I've seen jockeys smashing each other in S. Cal. Do you not understand that riding thoroughbreds in S. Cal is the most stressful job in the world? Why bring a baby into that? If you can't find someone to baby sit, then you probably shouldn't be riding.

Well, it's 2013 not 1923, and women are allowed to work in jobs now. I've seen people doing coke in the bathroom at work too, but what that has to do with anything I have no idea.

[iceknight]

Sure it is!

Next time you want someone to put your burning house out-- hope they don't have a baby in their arms. Next time you need to be protected by a burglar-- hope they don't have a baby in their arms. Next time you get on a jet-- hope they don't have a baby in their arms. Next time someone gets on a 1,200 lb animal--l hope they don't have a baby in their arms.

Name 1 job where people bring their kids to work?

Postal worker?
Teacher?
Retail?
Government?

Name 1... All of them do.

[nijinski]

She has four mounts today at BHP .

[Stillriledup]

She has four mounts today at BHP .

Rough beat in the first at HOLLYWOOD, she had to ride the 3 who scratched and she lost out on the mount on the 1, who seems live.

[nijinski]

Rough beat in the first at HOLLYWOOD, she had to ride the 3 who scratched and she lost out on the mount on the 1, who seems live.
I think the other three are good to go unless a late scratch I'm of aware of .
Speaking of ...
Is Chantal not getting rides or has she not officially started ?

[Stillriledup]

Kayla Lights that baby up! 10-1 winner in race 3.

[nijinski]

Kayla Lights that baby up! 10-1 winner in race 3.
Good to hear this!

[Stillriledup]

Good to hear this!

I think her winning filly might have been injured on the gallop out, i saw her being unsaddled before she came back. Hopefully just precautionary.

[nijinski]

I think her winning filly might have been injured on the gallop out, i saw her being unsaddled before she came back. Hopefully just precautionary.
Hopefully not serious .

[iceknight]

She has four mounts today at BHP . Is she riding with her baby strapped on to her, as Pondman seems to think? :lol:

[nijinski]

Is she riding with her baby strapped on to her, as Pondman seems to think? :lol:
No but I bet he got a big hug and squeeze after her win .

[castaway01]

You really think the baby doesn't cry or need diaper changes? It's a human baby, right?

If you read all the articles, you'll see that Stra was given a private room in addition to being allowed in the women's jock room. This, however, wasn't enough for her. She also wanted the baby and nanny to go into the common room shared by both the male and female jockeys. Now the entire jockey colony is forced to deal with a crying and pooing baby.

She got her way, and everyone applauds. I think she's very inconsiderate of others to force her baby on them at their work when she's been given perfectly reasonable accommodations. I notice that she and her husband didn't make a nursery out of his barn office.

No one applauded, a couple people with a brain just pointed out it was the same law everyone else in California has to deal with. So you were totally right except you weren't at all right? Ha, brilliant post.

[v j stauffer]

I think her winning filly might have been injured on the gallop out, i saw her being unsaddled before she came back. Hopefully just precautionary.

She's fine. Her saddle slipped. They re-set and she came back to the winners circle.

[Stillriledup]

She's fine. Her saddle slipped. They re-set and she came back to the winners circle.

Thanks for the update.