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JustRalph
05-22-2013, 11:10 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328952/Sweden-riots-Stockholm-burns-rioters-battle-police-days-violence-immigrant-ghetto.html#ixzz2U4LGca4E


I thought this place is supposed to be utopia

cj's dad
05-23-2013, 12:15 AM
Telling how not once does the article mention the % breakdown of the "immigrants".

And I assume the Swedish libs would have the police negotiate with a man wielding a machete. How callous.

badcompany
05-23-2013, 01:02 AM
Telling how not once does the article mention the % breakdown of the "immigrants".

And I assume the Swedish libs would have the police negotiate with a man wielding a machete. How callous.

Unreal how the MSM has neglected to mention that it's a Muslim riot.

When did Sweden invade their lands?

badcompany
05-23-2013, 01:24 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328952/Sweden-riots-Stockholm-burns-rioters-battle-police-days-violence-immigrant-ghetto.html#ixzz2U4LGca4E


I thought this place is supposed to be utopia

Yeah, you're not hearing Libs crow about the "Swedish Model" these days. Here's why:


High unemployment undermines 'Swedish model' - Taipei Times

www.taipeitimes.com/.../2003548100

Nov 19, 2012

Employers place the blame on employment protection laws and high entry level wages championed by Sweden’s powerful unions.

ArlJim78
05-23-2013, 09:33 AM
It's incredble how PC laden the reporting is on stories like this, always mentioning popular PC buzzwords like "unrest", "unemployment", "youths", "immigrants", "inequality", etc. never actually tackling the real issue.

these immigrants supposedly sought asylum in Sweden because of wars and violence in the middle east. we're to believe that things are so much worse for them in Sweden that they are now taking to burning cars and schools?

Robert Goren
05-23-2013, 11:21 AM
Yeah, you're not hearing Libs crow about the "Swedish Model" these days. Here's why:


High unemployment undermines 'Swedish model' - Taipei Times

www.taipeitimes.com/.../2003548100 (http://www.taipeitimes.com/.../2003548100)

Nov 19, 2012

Employers place the blame on employment protection laws and high entry level wages championed by Sweden’s powerful unions.You don't hear Cons bragging about any current conservative models either!!!!!! Just bitching about Liberal ones. Why do you suppose that is?

Tom
05-23-2013, 12:08 PM
You don't hear Cons bragging about any current conservative models either!!!!!! Just bitching about Liberal ones. Why do you suppose that is?

Because we live under this one, and we are being unfairly robbed under this one, and this is the only one we can change. Libs point to other countries to deflect how bad they have made this one. Cons try to stay focused on our own country - we want to talk about the problems.
That's what I suppose.

badcompany
05-23-2013, 12:46 PM
You don't hear Cons bragging about any current conservative models either!!!!!! Just bitching about Liberal ones. Why do you suppose that is?

Here's one, not a Conservative, but a Free Market success story. How's the Obama Green Jobs Initiative doing?:lol:

In the states where the boom is taking place, the unemployment rate is so low that even you might be able to get a job.:lol:

http://www.legalbrief.co.za/article.php?story=20130521101118387

US shale oil boom to rival Opec - report

Published in: Legalbrief Environmental
Date: Tue 21 May 2013
Category: Energy
Issue No: 0311


Booming US shale oil production will send 'shock waves' through the global oil trade over the next five years, says a new report on the oil industry, according to a report on the BDlive site.

It says the boom will boost US refiners and displace the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) as the driver of supply growth, the International Energy Agency said. North America will provide 40% of new supplies to 2018 through the development of light, tight (shale) oil and oil sands, while the contribution from Opec will slip to 30%, the agency said, according to the report.

BlueShoe
05-23-2013, 02:15 PM
You don't hear Cons bragging about any current conservative models either!!!!!! Just bitching about Liberal ones. Why do you suppose that is?
Are we forgetting about Angela Merkel, German head of state, member of the center right CDU party? A woman sometimes compared to Margaret Thatcher. A woman held in high regard by American Conservatives. Germany is the most prosperous nation in Europe, a success amid their socialist neighbors. The reason for this prosperity is the fact that the Germans still work for a living and do not live off of others money and effort, unlike the other lefist socialist nations of the rest of Europe.

Dave Schwartz
05-23-2013, 03:34 PM
Germany is the most prosperous nation in Europe, a success amid their socialist neighbors.

And still, education is all but free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Germany

Tuition fees
A great portion of the German universities is public, thus state-funded. In 2012, only two of the 16 states of Germany charged tuition fees up to 500€ per semester at state-funded colleges, while in 14 states tuition was provided free of charge.

JustRalph
05-24-2013, 09:09 AM
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/24/18466766-sweden-riots-cops-seek-reinforcements-us-citizens-warned?lite

Still Burning,,,,,,,,U.S. Citizens warned

iceknight
05-24-2013, 05:04 PM
And still, education is all but free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Germany I have my own theory on this.. that basic education should be free or not arbitrarily expensive- ie cost of education should be linked to payback potential after graduation..

however, in germany they have to "pay it back indirectly" by doing at least one year of military service or social service..

They also have to qualify for their field of study by passing certain examinations etc..

But (since I was there a while ago) things have changed/are changing.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Germany#Fachhochschule_.28Universitie s_of_Applied_Sciences.29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Germany

ElKabong
05-25-2013, 12:55 PM
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/24/18466766-sweden-riots-cops-seek-reinforcements-us-citizens-warned?lite

Still Burning,,,,,,,,U.S. Citizens warned

Remember in 2007 when the libs screeched "they hate us because of Bush and we're mean to them". That whiney shit stopped after 2009. Strange.

JustRalph
05-25-2013, 02:33 PM
http://tmblr.co/ZgkWaylodqwF

Amazing.......

PhantomOnTour
05-25-2013, 02:38 PM
How can you issue a parking ticket on a burned out vehicle?
You can't identify it, therefore you can't identify the owner.

Did the meter maid write down the license plate number? :D
I doubt the license plate even existed anymore

NJ Stinks
05-25-2013, 07:30 PM
Remember in 2007 when the libs screeched "they hate us because of Bush and we're mean to them". That whiney shit stopped after 2009. Strange.

Oh, so they don't hate us now because Bush invaded Iraq for no good reason? I guess that kind of BIG shit doesn't matter anymore. :rolleyes:

Tom
05-25-2013, 08:14 PM
Would would be so much better off if SH were still alive, murdering and gassing his own people.

Robert Goren
05-25-2013, 08:42 PM
Would would be so much better off if SH were still alive, murdering and gassing his own people.So how better off are they under current murdering leader that GWB put in? Give that Iranian puppet enough time and he will match SH body for body. You seem under the mistaken impression that al-Maliki is an improvement. He is not.

badcompany
05-25-2013, 09:40 PM
Oh, so they don't hate us now because Bush invaded Iraq for no good reason? I guess that kind of BIG shit doesn't matter anymore. :rolleyes:

So, why do they hate the Swedish People?

NJ Stinks
05-26-2013, 12:45 AM
So, why do they hate the Swedish People?

According to the Swedes themselves, uemployment and desperation are the main factors causing the riots. Here's some reasons for the riots pasted from a Swedish newspaper:
_________________________________

What do you think prompted the riots?

Nima Sanandaji
Although Sweden ranks as one of the most tolerant nations in the world, a policy centred on high taxes, a rigid labour market and generous public benefits for the last few decades has made it difficult for immigrants and youths to enter the labour market. Particularly, young immigrants face a difficult time. Another important issue is that the Swedish school system, with little focus on discipline, often fails students who do not come from families with highly-educated parents. Economic marginalization is coupled with the fact that a number of young people in poor immigrant neighbourhoods are violent and have a resentful perspective towards Swedish society.

Roya Hakimnia
This isn't news, we've seen this kind of rioting before, not just in Sweden. The problems are unemployment, having no hope for the future, and segregation. It's a frustration they feel can’t be expressed through any other way than rioting.

Bo Sundin
For some time now, a few key people have mobilized left-wing forces to create chaos and to tear down our society, which they don't accept. In addition to that, criminal groups have in recent days exploited the situation to burn cars and vandalize.

David Lindén
A feeling of not having any power among those who are on the outskirts of Stockholm. However, they are not politically motivated anymore, but now it seems more are willing to destroy things.

Hamid Ghamari
There are a lot of explanations. One factor is unemployment. There are a lot of people out of work around here, particular young people. The suburbs are struggling with integration problems. People feel isolated, and activities for youth have been cut back in recent years. The shooting last week may have been a sort of spark that unleashed forces that have been waiting for the right moment. I think it could have happened at any time.


Link to entire article: http://www.thelocal.se/48122/20130524/

ElKabong
05-26-2013, 12:52 AM
Here's some reasons for the riots pasted from a Swedish newspaper:
_________________________________

What do you think prompted the riots?

Nima Sanandaji
Although Sweden ranks as one of the most tolerant nations in the world, a policy centred on high taxes,

Oh the irony > a policy centered on high taxes, is cause for rioting

I laughed....

Read Bo Sundin's comments in your post.... a quote from the movie BLAZING FJORDS - Governor LaPetjamaiene- "Darn left wingers, they're ruining the west". "Don't print that..., we'll lose the moonbat vote" :lol:

badcompany
05-26-2013, 01:42 AM
Oh the irony > a policy centered on high taxes, is cause for rioting

I laughed....

Read Bo Sundin's comments in your post.... a quote from the movie BLAZING FJORDS - Governor LaPetjamaiene- "Darn left wingers, they're ruining the west". "Don't print that..., we'll lose the moonbat vote" :lol:

:lol: Stinks is blaming the policies that he, himself, advocates for Sweden's problems.

That's known in Internet parlance as a "Self-Owning." :lol:

NJ Stinks
05-26-2013, 02:18 AM
I guess we have gone from "the Muslims hate us for the way we live" or "what we have" to Muslims hate us because of "high taxes". :rolleyes:

badcompany
05-26-2013, 09:13 AM
I guess we have gone from "the Muslims hate us for the way we live" or "what we have" to Muslims hate us because of "high taxes". :rolleyes:

This is a truly excellent piece on the real source of Muslim hatred of the West. Of course, Libs are incapable of handling this level of truth:


http://www.city-journal.org/html/12_1_why_the_muslims.html


The catastrophe of the Muslim world is also explicable in its failure to grasp the nature of Western success, which springs neither from luck nor resources, genes nor geography. Like third-world Marxists of the 1960s, who put blame for their own self-inflicted misery upon corporations, colonialism, and racism—anything other than the absence of real markets and a free society—the Islamic intelligentsia recognizes the Muslim world’s inferiority vis-`a-vis the West, but it then seeks to fault others for its own self-created fiasco. Government spokesmen in the Middle East should ignore the nonsense of the cultural relativists and discredited Marxists and have the courage to say that they are poor because their populations are nearly half illiterate, that their governments are not free, that their economies are not open, and that their fundamentalists impede scientific inquiry, unpopular expression, and cultural exchange.

Tragically, the immediate prospects for improvement are dismal, inasmuch as the war against terrorism has further isolated the Middle East. Travel, foreign education, and academic exchanges—the only sources of future hope for the Arab world—have screeched to a halt. All the conferences in Cairo about Western bias and media distortion cannot hide this self-inflicted catastrophe—and the growing ostracism and suspicion of Middle Easterners in the West.

But blaming the West, and Israel, for the unendurable reality is easier for millions of Muslims than admitting the truth. Billions of barrels of oil, large populations, the Suez Canal, the fertility of the Nile, Tigris, and Euphrates valleys, invaluable geopolitical locations, and a host of other natural advantages that helped create wealthy civilizations in the past now yield an excess of misery, rather than the riches of resource-poor Hong Kong or Switzerland. How could it be otherwise, when it takes bribes and decades to obtain a building permit in Cairo; when habeas corpus is a cruel joke in Baghdad; and when Saudi Arabia turns out more graduates in Islamic studies than in medicine or engineering?

Tom
05-26-2013, 09:31 AM
So how better off are they under current murdering leader that GWB put in? Give that Iranian puppet enough time and he will match SH body for body. You seem under the mistaken impression that al-Maliki is an improvement. He is not.

Poison gas on his own people
Mass murders
Invasion of Kuwait


Things are better now. If they degrade, even YOU could not blame Bush for that. Obama ran the show the last few years.

badcompany
05-26-2013, 09:32 AM
This piece, also written by a Swede, does a great job of exposing the rotting effect of the Welfare State:

http://mises.org/daily/2190

Old people in Sweden say that to be Swedish means to supply for your own, to take care of your self, and never be a burden on anyone else's shoulders. Independence and hard work was the common perception of a decent life, and the common perception of morality. That was less than one hundred years ago.
My grandmother, born in 1920, was of the last generation to have that special personal pride, of having a firm and deeply rooted morality, of being a sovereign in life no matter what — to be the sole master of one's fate. The people of her generation experienced and endured one or two world wars (though Sweden never took part) and were raised by poor Swedish farmers and industrial workers. They witnessed and were the driving force behind the Swedish "wonder."

Their morality assured they could survive any condition. If they found themselves not being able to live off their wages, they would only work harder and longer. They were the architects and construction workers in building their own lives, even though it often meant hard work and enduring seemingly hopeless situations.

They would gladly offer to help those in need even if they only had little, but were not likely to accept anyone's help if offered. They felt pride in being competent to take care of themselves; they cherished independence of others, of never having to ask for help. They figured, if they couldn't make it themselves, they had no right to ask for help.

Decent morality is long gone. It was completely destroyed in little more than two generations — through public welfare benefits and the concept of welfare rights

badcompany
05-26-2013, 09:37 AM
Here's another Swede, the great guitarist, Yngwie Malsteen, with some eye opening comments about the country where he grew up.


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