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Let's Roll
04-08-2013, 08:09 AM
A great woman, the "Iron Lady", has passed away.
I have fond memories of her and Ronald Reagan, her strong leadership and political style.
Rest in Peace dear Lady.

Robert Goren
04-08-2013, 08:35 AM
An amazing woman. She did a lot things to raise the UK in the eyes the world.

In spite of all she did, in the long run, her quick fall power may be what she is most remembered for. Queen of the world one day, out on her ear a week later. As an observer of politics, I find her ouster one of the amazing things in modern history. Shakespeare could have written a play about it.

lamboguy
04-08-2013, 08:49 AM
she was truly a great leader, and Reagan was too at that time.

the world will never get leaders like those 2, we will all miss her.

badcompany
04-08-2013, 09:33 AM
Unlike our current President, she understood economics:


“There are significant differences between the American and European version of capitalism. The American traditiionally emphasizes the need for limited government, light regulations, low taxes and maximum labour-market flexibility. Its success has been shown above all in the ability to create new jobs, in which it is consistently more successful than Europe.”
― Margaret Thatcher, The Path To Power

tucker6
04-08-2013, 09:47 AM
An amazing woman. She did a lot things to raise the UK in the eyes the world.

In spite of all she did, in the long run, her quick fall power may be what she is most remembered for. Queen of the world one day, out on her ear a week later. As an observer of politics, I find her ouster one of the amazing things in modern history. Shakespeare could have written a play about it.
Her ouster is second in speed and surprise to that of Winston Churchill after WWII.

Ocala Mike
04-08-2013, 12:26 PM
Not many pass and have an "ism" named after the? You can google "Thatcherism" if you like.

She revitalized London, but screwed Northern England and Wales.

PhantomOnTour
04-08-2013, 12:30 PM
a great woman

RIP

NJ Stinks
04-08-2013, 01:41 PM
Margaret Thatcher was never someone I was fond of. In fact, her poll tax was two things a tax should never be: unfair and/or unenforceable.

But in the end I agree with the writer below when it comes to Mrs. Thatcher:

It is like losing a relative with whom you quarreled often but strongly respected. She loved this country enough to try to change it, and we owe her love in return. May The Great Lady rest in peace.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100211037/margaret-thatcher-was-a-great-briton-whatever-their-politics-everyone-owes-her-respect/

TJDave
04-08-2013, 03:49 PM
...what Thatcher often said was her greatest accomplishment, which was not her work in helping to topple the Soviet Union or being the first British woman to hold the post of prime minister, but rather, was her work as a child to save a Jewish teenager in Austria from the grasp of Hitler’s terror.



In 1938, Edith Muhlbauer, a 17-year-old Jewish girl, wrote to Muriel Roberts, Edith’s pen pal and the future prime minister’s [Margaret Thatcher] older sister, asking if the Roberts family might help her escape Hitler’s Austria. The Nazis had begun rounding up the first of Vienna’s Jews after the Anschluss, and Edith and her family worried she might be next. Alfred Roberts, Margaret and Muriel’s father, was a small-town grocer; the family had neither the time nor the money to take Edith in. So Margaret, then 12, and Muriel, 17, set about raising funds and persuading the local Rotary club to help.

Edith stayed with more than a dozen Rotary families, including the Robertses, for the next two years, until she could move to join relatives in South America. Edith bunked in Margaret’s room, and she left an impression. “She was 17, tall, beautiful, evidently from a well-to-do family,” Thatcher later wrote in her memoir. But most important, “[s]he told us what it was like to live as a Jew under an anti-Semitic regime. One thing Edith reported particularly stuck in my mind: The Jews, she said, were being made to scrub the streets.” For Thatcher, who believed in meaningful work, this was as much a waste as it was an outrage. Had the Roberts family not intervened, Edith recalled years later, “I would have stayed in Vienna and they would have killed me.” Thatcher never forgot the lesson: “Never hesitate to do whatever you can, for you may save a life,” she told audiences in 1995 after Edith had been located, alive and well, in Brazil.

mostpost
04-08-2013, 04:53 PM
Annette Funicello also died today. That is the greater loss.

JustRalph
04-08-2013, 05:13 PM
Annette Funicello also died today. That is the greater loss.

Typical revolting left wing bullshit.

M. Thatcher is being maligned for breaking the unions, triumphing in a far-off war, and selling off state industries at a record pace. She was the anti liberal.

Margaret Thatcher was everything a leftist hates. A smart women, one who fought her way up through her party and seized the reins. Attacked the welfare state and without compunction set a course that undermined the left all while portraying a staid front. She didn't blink. You don't earn the nickname "Iron Lady" in a country like England in the 70's without respect.

mostpost
04-08-2013, 05:41 PM
Typical revolting left wing bullshit.

M. Thatcher is being maligned for breaking the unions, triumphing in a far-off war, and selling off state industries at a record pace. She was the anti liberal.

Margaret Thatcher was everything a leftist hates. A smart women, one who fought her way up through her party and seized the reins. Attacked the welfare state and without compunction set a course that undermined the left all while portraying a staid front. She didn't blink. You don't earn the nickname "Iron Lady" in a country like England in the 70's without respect.
And those things you listed are exactly the reasons I did not like her. I am neither sad not happy that she has died.

Robert Goren
04-08-2013, 06:44 PM
I, likewise, had no conection to Thatcher either way. But I had a big time crush on Annette Funicello. If you are a man my age, you probably had one too.

Tom
04-08-2013, 06:47 PM
I am neither sad not happy that she has died.

No, just totally classless. :ThmbDown:

Greyfox
04-08-2013, 06:52 PM
Annette Funicello also died today. That is the greater loss.

That speaks volumes of your understanding of contributions to the world.

JustRalph
04-08-2013, 07:06 PM
http://zite.to/11JpdQm

This piece is going around now. She understood European economics and could see the road ahead with great clarity


Margaret Thatcher Was Freakishly Correct About Why The Euro Would Be Such A Big Disaster


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/margaret-thatcher-on-the-euro-2013-4#ixzz2PurZIp39

NJ Stinks
04-08-2013, 07:56 PM
Margaret Thatcher was everything a leftist hates. A smart women...

OK. Explain why lefties hate smart women. :confused:

rastajenk
04-08-2013, 08:05 PM
Jealousy?

johnhannibalsmith
04-08-2013, 08:08 PM
OK. Explain why lefties hate smart women. :confused:

Because they don't like conservatives?

:D

Just kidding, but if you are gonna set up the punchline dammit...

Robert Goren
04-08-2013, 08:14 PM
That speaks volumes of your understanding of contributions to the world.Thatcher was a back stabbing politician who in the end got what she dished out. Almost all of her " contributions " have undone since her departure. Her claim to fame that she is that she avoided the euro. Of course the pound is in as bad shape as the euro. nothing to brag about there. She got a bunch of people killed to keep a few islands half around the world to bolster British pride. If that is your thing and you are a Brit, you loved her for a short time. She reminds me of Bush 41 in way.

tucker6
04-08-2013, 08:18 PM
And those things you listed are exactly the reasons I did not like her. I am neither sad not happy that she has died.
I get the sense that you would be an appeaser.

BlueShoe
04-08-2013, 08:23 PM
Typical revolting left wing bullshit.
Another example of the "If it feels good do it" mindset of leftists. Stating that an obscure screen actress's passing is more tragic than that of one of the world's greatest recent political leaders. Unless one is of the immediate family or friends of AF, only a lefty loon could come up with such a dumb remark.

mostpost
04-08-2013, 08:51 PM
No, just totally classless. :ThmbDown:
This from the guy who regularly calls the President of the United States a POS.

Greyfox
04-08-2013, 08:57 PM
Thatcher was a back stabbing politician who in the end got what she dished out. Almost all of her " contributions " have undone since her departure. Her claim to fame that she is that she avoided the euro. Of course the pound is in as bad shape as the euro. nothing to brag about there. She got a bunch of people killed to keep a few islands half around the world to bolster British pride. If that is your thing and you are a Brit, you loved her for a short time. She reminds me of Bush 41 in way.

Me thinks, suspects, your knowledge of Margaret Thatcher could fit in thimble.

tucker6
04-08-2013, 09:14 PM
Me thinks, suspects, your knowledge of Margaret Thatcher could fit in thimble.
you are a generous man methinks ...

Tom
04-08-2013, 09:16 PM
Me thinks, suspects, your knowledge of Margaret Thatcher could fit in thimble.

With the rest of his vast knowledge.
And room for his car.

TJDave
04-08-2013, 09:17 PM
Annette Funicello also died today. That is the greater loss.

Don't get it. She was just average as a singer and lousy as an actress. You must be a peanut butter fan.

NJ Stinks
04-08-2013, 09:50 PM
Me thinks, suspects, your knowledge of Margaret Thatcher could fit in thimble.

Why? Because Robert thinks unlike you, BlueShoe, and thousands of other conservatives that think she was the cat's meow?

Thatcher presided over a country with over 10% unemployment for much her time as Prime Minister. How come such a figure makes Obama a bum but Thatcher a legend in your mind?

JustRalph
04-08-2013, 10:00 PM
Thatcher was a back stabbing politician who in the end got what she dished out. Almost all of her " contributions " have undone since her departure. Her claim to fame that she is that she avoided the euro. Of course the pound is in as bad shape as the euro. nothing to brag about there. She got a bunch of people killed to keep a few islands half around the world to bolster British pride. If that is your thing and you are a Brit, you loved her for a short time. She reminds me of Bush 41 in way.

For a short time? You really don't know what the hell you speak of. She was Prime Minister 11 years! And when she left, her party won again. In that system of government it's an eternity.

If the Brits had continued her policies they would be flush with cash. Her "contributions" were to abstain from furthering the socialist tide. They didn't, and their downturn is on the heels of their neighbors........damn shame.

Robert Goren
04-08-2013, 10:19 PM
For a short time? You really don't know what the hell you speak of. She was Prime Minister 11 years! And when she left, her party won again. In that system of government it's an eternity.

If the Brits had continued her policies they would be flush with cash. Her "contributions" were to abstain from furthering the socialist tide. They didn't, and their downturn is on the heels of their neighbors........damn shame. I forgot to mention that she and Reagan didn't get along either. I bet you forgot about that too.

so.cal.fan
04-08-2013, 10:41 PM
Robert, you are absolutely wrong.
Mrs. Thatcher was very fond of President Reagan.
She was not in good health at the time of his death, but flew over from GB to attend his funeral. I saw her. She was there.

Tom
04-08-2013, 10:42 PM
What possible importance is that?

Robert Goren
04-08-2013, 10:55 PM
Robert, you are absolutely wrong.
Mrs. Thatcher was very fond of President Reagan.
She was not in good health at the time of his death, but flew over from GB to attend his funeral. I saw her. She was there.She fell out with Reagan over the invasion of Grenada. Reagan assured her wasn't going to invade it. She felt Reagan lied to her. She never trusted him again. This was never a secret.

Tom
04-08-2013, 11:23 PM
Highly doubtful, but half the truth is probably better than none of it.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2013/04/08/how-margaret-thatcher-and-ronald-reagan-changed-the-world

The "Great Communicator" and the "Iron Lady" disagreed on some things but agreed on many more including the heretical notion that the Cold War could be won.

When Reagan passed away in June 2004, the former prime minister was not supposed to attend the funeral because of her own health problems. But at the last, she summoned the strength to make the trip. At the calling hours where Nancy Reagan greeted mourners at Blair House, Thatcher wrote in the book collecting memories and praise, "To Ronnie, well done thou good and faithful servant."

dartman51
04-08-2013, 11:44 PM
I forgot to mention that she and Reagan didn't get along either. I bet you forgot about that too.

Where do you get this crap. In your first post you called her an "amazing woman", in your second post, you call her a "back stabbing politician." Now you trying to say that her and Reagan didn't get along. Try reading what the people that really knew her, have to say about their relationship, instead of making shit up.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-ronald-reagan-leaders-allied

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/what-did-margaret-thatcher-do-britain

Ocala Mike
04-09-2013, 12:01 AM
Her "contributions" were to abstain from furthering the socialist tide.



Some believe she was actually a good socialist:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lawrence-odonnell-ignorance-is-the-first-requirement-for-gops-love-socialist-margaret-thatcher/

badcompany
04-09-2013, 12:25 AM
Don't be too hard on the Lefties on this board and their low rent comments. They're still broken up over the death of this guy:

http://www.imemc.org/attachments/mar2013/chavez.jpg

Robert Goren
04-09-2013, 12:27 AM
Was any those praising posts from Edward Heath or William Whitelaw, her early rivals for control of the conservative party or from Micheal Heseltine who spearheaded her ouster as leader of conservative party and Prime Minister. I think not.
I said she was amazing, but what I really meant was her story was amazing. I suspect the story of her rise and fall from power will be remember long after what she did while in office is long forgotten.

mostpost
04-09-2013, 01:20 AM
Don't be too hard on the Lefties on this board and their low rent comments. They're still broken up over the death of this guy:

http://www.imemc.org/attachments/mar2013/chavez.jpg
As usual you have got it wrong. Go back and read the thread on the death of Chavez. Very few liberals commented and none of them expressed any sorrow that Chavez had died. It was mostly six pages of conservatives dancing on his grave.

newtothegame
04-09-2013, 01:27 AM
As usual you have got it wrong. Go back and read the thread on the death of Chavez. Very few liberals commented and none of them expressed any sorrow that Chavez had died. It was mostly six pages of conservatives dancing on his grave.
I wonder how many liberals came out and said what he really was? How many of them said what he stood for versus just "not saying anything?
But, I see no lack of speaking when it comes to the Iron Lady....
hmmm interesting......

badcompany
04-09-2013, 01:37 AM
As usual you have got it wrong. Go back and read the thread on the death of Chavez. Very few liberals commented and none of them expressed any sorrow that Chavez had died.

Of course, they didn't. They were too overcome by grief. Some couldn't post because the tears shorted out their keyboards. :(

Tom
04-09-2013, 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by mostpost
As usual you have got it wrong. Go back and read the thread on the death of Chavez. Very few liberals commented and none of them expressed any sorrow that Chavez had died. It was mostly six pages of conservatives dancing on his grave.


Go look up the obits written by the AP for both people - tell me what you see that stands out.