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IRISHLADSTABLE
02-12-2004, 07:52 PM
Horse Odds

Action This Day 20-1

Birdstone 12-1

Borrego 50-1

Capac 30-1

Eurosilver 6-1

Fire Slam 20-1

GradePoint 50-1

Gran Prospect 50-1

Halfbridled (Filly) 10-1

Lion Heart 15-1

Lucky Pulpit 50-1

Master David 20-1

Minister Eric 30-1

Me Jester 30-1

Read The FootNotes 12-1

Second Of June 10-1

Shaniko 50-1

Silver Wagon 30-1

Sir Oscar 12-1

St Averil 15-1

Tapit 15-1

The Cliff's Edge 20-1

Tiger Hunt 20-1

(Sorry Mike This Is From Today's NY Post)

Jimmy

Buddha
02-12-2004, 11:20 PM
Here are the updated odds current at around 11:00 PM ET.

# Morning Line Horse Name Win Odds Win Pool
1 20-1 Action This Day 40 NA
2 12-1 Birdstone 50 NA
3 50-1 Borrego 99 NA
4 30-1 Capac 99 NA
5 6-1 Eurosilver 35 NA
6 20-1 Fire Slam 80 NA
7 50-1 Gradepoint 90 NA
8 50-1 Gran Prospect 80 NA
9 10-1 Halfbridled (f) 70 NA
10 15-1 Lion Heart 19 NA
11 50-1 Lucky Pulpit 99 NA
12 20-1 Master David 16 NA
13 30-1 Minister Eric 60 NA
14 30-1 Mr. Jester 99 NA
15 12-1 Read The Footnotes 50 NA
16 10-1 Second Of June 50 NA
17 50-1 Shaniko 99 NA
18 30-1 Silver Wagon 70 NA
19 12-1 Sir Oscar 99 NA
20 15-1 St Averil 90 NA
21 15-1 Tapit 45 NA
22 20-1 The Cliff's Edge 99 NA
23 20-1 Tiger Hunt 99 NA
24 4-1 All other 3yos 1/5 NA


odds and data courtesy of watchandwager.com

Observer
02-13-2004, 01:16 AM
$30k was dropped in one wager on the Field!!
:eek:

$30k Field Wager (http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=20651)

yak merchant
02-13-2004, 09:08 AM
I'm not up to speed on the contenders. If you could post any horses that comprise "The Field" that you have seen that look promising.

IRISHLADSTABLE
02-13-2004, 12:54 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Observer
[B]$30k was dropped in one wager on the Field!!
:eek:

Ok Confess Which one of you dropped 30K on the Field ?



Jimmy

Buddha
02-13-2004, 01:18 PM
Somebody must think that this group is a bad group htey have selected. Either that, or some rich owner has a horse he nominated, and is just chillin on a farm, knowing they have a great 3yo :)

cj
02-13-2004, 01:20 PM
The bettor probably wagered early to hopefully keep others from betting the field, thus getting a better price if it were to be a winning bet. Pretty smart actually!

Bubbles
02-13-2004, 03:50 PM
Smart, yes, but thirty grand three months before the gates are sprung? Don't mean to spark anything, but this sounds an awful lot like when Master David won the Sham; odds dropped through the floor when the gates sprung, and the horse won. This sound suspicious to anyone else?

Observer
02-13-2004, 11:29 PM
First of all .. to clarify .. the field for the Derby & Oaks would be all
other 3yos not listed as individual betting interests. So, when you bet the field, you get any other 3yo except for the 23 individuals listed.

As for the $30k bet being "suspicious" .. it seems to happen every year .. someone dumps a ton of money on the field .. I know this is definitely not the first time it's happened .. sounds like a risky bet to me .. because since the Future Wagers were introduced several years ago, most of the Derby winners were listed on Pool 1 .. I think Charismatic and War Emblem were the
exceptions .. and both of those horses paid much, much more generously on Derby Day than as part of the Field.

Buddha
02-16-2004, 12:00 AM
Here were the final odds after the first round of future betting.


# Morning Line Horse Name Win Odds Win Pool
1 20-1 Action This Day 14 $29877
2 12-1 Birdstone 12 $32515
3 50-1 Borrego 50 $8450
4 30-1 Capac 35 $11519
5 6-1 Eurosilver 11 $35017
6 20-1 Fire Slam 50 $7959
7 50-1 Gradepoint 24 $17861
8 50-1 Gran Prospect 70 $5797
9 10-1 Halfbridled (f) 24 $17728
10 15-1 Lion Heart 14 $29158
11 50-1 Lucky Pulpit 70 $5644
12 20-1 Master David 19 $22150
13 30-1 Minister Eric 30 $13483
14 30-1 Mr. Jester 50 $7553
15 12-1 Read The Footnotes 14 $29821
16 10-1 Second Of June -1 $-2
17 50-1 Shaniko 45 $9337
18 30-1 Silver Wagon 45 $9415
19 12-1 Sir Oscar 80 $5406
20 15-1 St Averil 25 $17286
21 15-1 Tapit 17 $23948
22 20-1 The Cliff's Edge 25 $15038
23 20-1 Tiger Hunt 30 $12666
24 4-1 All other 3yos 9/5 $155851
Pool Total: $523479