Stock market rally

[ceejay]

http://www.chartoftheday.com/20130313.htm?T

Looking at this chart the rally may have some more room to go.…

[badcompany]

http://www.chartoftheday.com/20130313.htm?T

Looking at this chart the rally may have some more room to go.…


Today's chart illustrates rallies that followed massive bear markets. For today's chart, a 'massive' bear market is defined as a decline of greater than 50%. Since the Dow's inception in 1896, there have been only three bear markets whereby the Dow declined more than 50% (early 1930s, late 1930s until early 1940s, and during the recent financial crisis). Today's chart also adds the rally that followed the dot-com bust during which the Nasdaq declined 78%. The current Dow rally has followed the post dot-com bust rally of the Nasdaq that began back in 2002 fairly closely and held to a general post-massive bear market rally pattern -- rally during the first 300 trading days, trade in a relatively flat choppy manner up until around 600 trading days and then re-embark on the second leg of the rally. History may not repeat, but it rhymes.



Notes:
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That's not much of a sample size, now, is it?

[badcompany]

btw,

Predictions from Barron's always make me nervous:


Barron's Cover | MONDAY, JUNE 2, 2008 Buy GM
By VITO RACANELLI | MORE ARTICLES BY AUTHOR

General Motors' turnaround could accelerate in coming years, driving handsome gains for bold stockholders. Needed: A jolt from the hybrid Chevrolet Volt.

The shares could rise to at least 30 and maybe as much as 45 once those big cost reductions drop to the bottom line in 2010. And if the stars align perfectly -- the economy enjoys a second-half uptick and the housing market and consumer confidence turn for the better sooner than expected -- the stock's rebound could be quicker. Even a small improvement in sentiment could bring a disproportionate rise in the stock.

[sammy the sage]

It keeps going UP as long as THE FED continues the "MONEY OUTTA THIN AIR" policy...to the tune of 84 billion a month at 1% or less rates...

When they stop...watch out BELOW :eek: :faint:

[Robert Goren]

It keeps going UP as long as THE FED continues the "MONEY OUTTA THIN AIR" policy...to the tune of 84 billion a month at 1% or less rates...

When they stop...watch out BELOW :eek: :faint:I agree. The FED has basically taken the government bonds out of the investment options for most Americans. The other countries's investors continue to buy them as flight to safety. I don't see the fed stopping anytime soon. When unemployment gets below 6%, maybe some slowing , at 4.5% it stops for sure. You do the math as to when that will be.

[Mike at A+]

In the short term, we will see small moves up and down UNTIL the day when the trading programs all kick in and see that the shit is about to hit the fan. At that point we'll see a 5-20% correction. Those government bonds may not look attractive today but they will remain a safe haven to park assets from selling as the market slowly rises in the short term. They say "buy the dips" but the converse is to "sell the blips" and while you may lose out on short term profits, you will be glad in the long run as the stuff you sell will be available to repurchase later at bargain basement prices. Unemployment below 6%? 4.5%? Ain't happening in our lifetimes. No freaking way. Not with 0bamacare.

[JustRalph]

I agree. The FED has basically taken the government bonds out of the investment options for most Americans. The other countries's investors continue to buy them as flight to safety. I don't see the fed stopping anytime soon. When unemployment gets below 6%, maybe some slowing , at 4.5% it stops for sure. You do the math as to when that will be.

4.5 % ? Are you joking? I would be surprised to live long enough to see 4.5% unemployment

6% would be a god send in the next 5 yrs.

[johnhannibalsmith]

4.5 % ? Are you joking? I would be surprised to live long enough to see 4.5% unemployment

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It could happen... if some of these wackadoos over yonder can get those projectiles perfected and the range a little better... but yeah, other than that...

[RaceBookJoe]

4.5 % ? Are you joking? I would be surprised to live long enough to see 4.5% unemployment

6% would be a god send in the next 5 yrs.

All depends on how many more low-paying jobs are created. Sure the unemployment # dropped, but the rate of jobs growth is at an 18 month low..which at this rate takes us to 2017 to reach pre-recession levels.
* Labor force participation fell to lowest levels since 1981..and this is 4 yrs into the supposed recovery. 89.3M not in the labor force...a record.
* More people left the workforce than jobs created
* only 58.6% of US citizens working vs 60.6% when obama took office
* long-term unemployed rose 90K, and up 1M since June 2009 ( when the recovery started )
* Jan/Feb 2012 jobs created 311k and 271 K
Jan/Feb 2013 jobs created 119k and 236k

But about the stock market, not sure the market will drop until they squeeze the rest of the money out of the retail investors that still havent jumped in yet. Once the internals start to turn, that will be the signal to watch..doesnt mean it will fall right away though.

[Robert Goren]

The point is the FED is going to keep pumping money in until the employment numbers get a whole lot lower. If we don't reach those numbers then the FED is not going to stop pumping in money.

[Mike at A+]

Look, the bottom line is that we are stuck for 4 more years with a racist piece of trash who will do all within his power to ensure that people who paid their dues will continue to pay for those who didn't. He will continue to invoke children, the disabled, the poor and seniors to promote an agenda that demonizes success and discourages the will to better oneself. He will tell the unmotivated and the terminally stupid to "punish" their "enemies" and they will stare with open mouths in agreement while prosperity becomes unattractive to more and more Americans. He is a Communist for the masses and a capitalist for himself, his family and his friends. And he is a traitor. Make no mistake. A TRAITOR who is DELIBERATELY destroying the very foundations upon which this country was built. He hates successful white people. If you don't see that, you are either blind, stupid or comfortably numb.

[Robert Goren]

Look, the bottom line is that we are stuck for 4 more years with a racist piece of trash who will do all within his power to ensure that people who paid their dues will continue to pay for those who didn't. He will continue to invoke children, the disabled, the poor and seniors to promote an agenda that demonizes success and discourages the will to better oneself. He will tell the unmotivated and the terminally stupid to "punish" their "enemies" and they will stare with open mouths in agreement while prosperity becomes unattractive to more and more Americans. He is a Communist for the masses and a capitalist for himself, his family and his friends. And he is a traitor. Make no mistake. A TRAITOR who is DELIBERATELY destroying the very foundations upon which this country was built. He hates successful white people. If you don't see that, you are either blind, stupid or comfortably numb.All of the racist crock I have read in my life, this takes the cake. Move to Northern Idaho were the white separatists will crown you King.

[NJ Stinks]

Look, the bottom line is that we are stuck for 4 more years with a racist piece of trash who will do all within his power to ensure that people who paid their dues will continue to pay for those who didn't. He will continue to invoke children, the disabled, the poor and seniors to promote an agenda that demonizes success and discourages the will to better oneself. He will tell the unmotivated and the terminally stupid to "punish" their "enemies" and they will stare with open mouths in agreement while prosperity becomes unattractive to more and more Americans. He is a Communist for the masses and a capitalist for himself, his family and his friends. And he is a traitor. Make no mistake. A TRAITOR who is DELIBERATELY destroying the very foundations upon which this country was built. He hates successful white people. If you don't see that, you are either blind, stupid or comfortably numb.

Hey, that reminds me. How's that theory of yours that says the stock market tanks when Obama opens his mouth? :rolleyes:

[johnhannibalsmith]

Hey, that reminds me. How's that theory of yours that says the stock market tanks when Obama opens his mouth? :rolleyes:

He has to say something new for it to work... and we all know... :lol:

[Valuist]

There was an article in the Wall Street Journal recently pointing out that while the Dow surpassed the high from October 2007, one's money was actually worth 20% less. It isn't as good as it looks.

[Ocala Mike]

The bride retired from her job at Ocala Breeders Sales recently, and cashed in her small 401K today. Counting her employer's match, and the performance she got in the market, her ROI was respectable.

Thank you Mr. Socialist in the White House.

[Mike at A+]

Hey, that reminds me. How's that theory of yours that says the stock market tanks when Obama opens his mouth? :rolleyes:
When one controls the money printing machine and vows to continue printing, that "theory" become a little less relevant, wouldn't you think?

That said, if you watched the March 1 sequestration press conference (you know, the "Jedi Mind Meld" speech), the Dow dropped 40 points DURING the speech and recovered after he removed his sorry ass off the podium ignoring the 2 Fox News reporters who were almost wetting their pants trying to ask him a question that would have embarrassed the crap out of him. He actually filled in for Jay Carney whose ass was still hurting from the reeming he took in his last press conference.

[Mike at A+]

All of the racist crock I have read in my life, this takes the cake. Move to Northern Idaho were the white separatists will crown you King.
Acknowledgment of racism in someone else is not racism. Just because someone calls Robert Byrd a racist (as many people have done) does not make the accusers "racists". Your point is INVALID. Here are a few FACTS that you should study before you open your mouth.

There ARE black racists and I could name several with little effort.
0bama's OWN WORDS can easily lead someone to believe that he has racist views.
I have no desire to associate with racists of ANY color.
Knowledge of facts, trends and statistics does not make one a racist.
Liberals play the race card when the facts are against them.

[Robert Goren]

Acknowledgment of racism in someone else is not racism. Just because someone calls Robert Byrd a racist (as many people have done) does not make the accusers "racists". Your point is INVALID. Here are a few FACTS that you should study before you open your mouth.

There ARE black racists and I could name several with little effort.
0bama's OWN WORDS can easily lead someone to believe that he has racist views.
I have no desire to associate with racists of ANY color.
Knowledge of facts, trends and statistics does not make one a racist.
Liberals play the race card when the facts are against them.People like you have discovered they negate some of the criticism of their racist statements by accusing the victims of racism racist. That kind of foolishness doesn't work on me.
As for Robert Byrd, he admitted that at one time he was a racist and recanted those racist beliefs. He lost consider support for his recanting, but was still able to be re-elected senator.
If I have learned anything as a horse player, It is that you can twist facts, trends and statistics to mean anything you want. That doesn't make the end product of that warping true.
Now back to the booming stock market.

[Robert Goren]

When one controls the money printing machine and vows to continue printing, that "theory" become a little less relevant, wouldn't you think?

That said, if you watched the March 1 sequestration press conference (you know, the "Jedi Mind Meld" speech), the Dow dropped 40 points DURING the speech and recovered after he removed his sorry ass off the podium ignoring the 2 Fox News reporters who were almost wetting their pants trying to ask him a question that would have embarrassed the crap out of him. He actually filled in for Jay Carney whose ass was still hurting from the reeming he took in his last press conference.Employees of Rupert Murdock should stop pretending to be political reporters or political experts and get back to doing what they are good at, erasing voice mails of missing girls.

[Mike at A+]

Employees of Rupert Murdock should stop pretending to be political reporters or political experts and get back to doing what they are good at, erasing voice mails of missing girls.
Nice try but I believe their questions would have been about the budget (or in the case of 0bama and Reid, the LACK of a budget FOUR YEARS RUNNING).

[Mike at A+]

People like you have discovered they negate some of the criticism of their racist statements by accusing the victims of racism racist. That kind of foolishness doesn't work on me.
As for Robert Byrd, he admitted that at one time he was a racist and recanted those racist beliefs. He lost consider support for his recanting, but was still able to be re-elected senator.
If I have learned anything as a horse player, It is that you can twist facts, trends and statistics to mean anything you want. That doesn't make the end product of that warping true.
Now back to the booming stock market.
0BAMA'S OWN WORDS:
TYPICAL WHITE PERSON
THE POLICE ACTED STUPIDLY
PUNISH YOUR ENEMIES

Nothing "twisted" about any of the above.

[acorn54]

i think the rise of stocks is asset based inflation.
i dollar-cost average the market, my old dentist said the stock market was for horseplayers. :)

[BlueShoe]

All of the racist crock I have read in my life, this takes the cake. Move to Northern Idaho were the white separatists will crown you King.
Truth hurts, eh Bobby? Mike nailed it right on the head, gets my nomination for Post of the Week, or perhaps even the month. :ThmbUp: Could not have said it better myself, and I am supposed to be the #1 right wing loon on this forum. :jump: :D

[Robert Goren]

Truth hurts, eh Bobby? Mike nailed it right on the head, gets my nomination for Post of the Week, or perhaps even the month. :ThmbUp: Could not have said it better myself, and I am supposed to be the #1 right wing loon on this forum. :jump: :DThe country has rejected yours and Mike's views last fall and that what really hurts you and Mike so much. You guys need get over southern 1950s views about race and communism. Thankfully, most of the country has left in you and your kind in the dust.

[Tom]

As for Robert Byrd, he admitted that at one time he was a racist and recanted those racist beliefs. He lost consider support for his recanting, but was still able to be re-elected senator.

By other racists.

[Tom]

Nice try but I believe their questions would have been about the budget (or in the case of 0bama and Reid, the LACK of a budget FOUR YEARS RUNNING).

Bobby has immunity to the truth.
Never lets it get in his way.

[BlueShoe]

The country has rejected yours and Mike's views last fall and that what really hurts you and Mike so much. You guys need get over southern 1950s views about race and communism. Thankfully, most of the country has left in you and your kind in the dust.
Thats what the left said before the 2010 mid term elections, that conservatism and the GOP was dead and extinct. We all know what happened then, don't we? Comrade Obama is a Bolshevik who's goal is to destroy American society and remake it in the image of either the Euro-Socialist nations, or, as some of us fear, even the old Soviet Union.

[Robert Goren]

Thats what the left said before the 2010 mid term elections, that conservatism and the GOP was dead and extinct. We all know what happened then, don't we? Comrade Obama is a Bolshevik who's goal is to destroy American society and remake it in the image of either the Euro-Socialist nations, or, as some of us fear, even the old Soviet Union.And you wonder why you can't win a national election? You can win in some small states with a good "get out vote" campaign. But at time when most people are paying attention, your views get rejected. A conservative needs a small turnout to win outside of the southern and plains states.

[Mike at A+]

And you wonder why you can't win a national election? You can win in some small states with a good "get out vote" campaign. But at time when most people are paying attention, your views get rejected. A conservative needs a small turnout to win outside of the southern and plains states.
As the saying goes, "some people work for a living, some people vote for a living". That is why it's getting harder for conservatives to win elections. The people who want nothing to do with personal responsibility are multiplying like rabbits because with every birth, their government check goes up. And as these offspring grow into adulthood, the parent (usually a mother who has no idea where the father is or in some cases even WHO he is) schools the offspring on how to get their very own government check. And how to vote to keep the cycle going ad infinitum. As for those southern states and plains states, you will see more and more successful people moving to them from states inhabited largely by those who breed (and vote) for a living. There is no denying that trend and not only has it started, but it's in full swing. Now you can make this about race (or racism) if you want but the statistics are quite real. People who WANT to work and be productive without having to see huge chunks of their taxes go to people who don't lift a finger are relocating to states with low unemployment where a far superior work ethic exists among the residents. I think most of us would rather live in a place where everyone pulls their own weight. That isn't racism, it's common sense.

[Valuist]

All of the racist crock I have read in my life, this takes the cake. Move to Northern Idaho were the white separatists will crown you King.

This coming from someone from Nebraska? Have you ever even met a black person? Ethnic makeup of Nebraska: 86% white, 4.5% black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska#Demographics

[badcompany]

In the short term, we will see small moves up and down UNTIL the day when the trading programs all kick in and see that the shit is about to hit the fan. At that point we'll see a 5-20% correction. Those government bonds may not look attractive today but they will remain a safe haven to park assets from selling as the market slowly rises in the short term. They say "buy the dips" but the converse is to "sell the blips" and while you may lose out on short term profits, you will be glad in the long run as the stuff you sell will be available to repurchase later at bargain basement prices. .

The problem with a strategy that requires buying at prices below the current market is that you might never get them. Who is to say that the market won't go up for the next few years and your 20% correction is from 20k to 16k?

If that happens, you have two choices: either buy at the higher price or sit out forever.

When the Dow was at 2k, I'm sure there were guys waiting for a 10% pullback so they could get in at 1800. They're still waiting.

[Mike at A+]

The problem with a strategy that requires buying at prices below the current market is that you might never get them. Who is to say that the market won't go up for the next few years and your 20% correction is from 20k to 16k?

If that happens, you have two choices: either buy at the higher price or sit out forever.

When the Dow was at 2k, I'm sure there were guys waiting for a 10% pullback so they could get in at 1800. They're still waiting.
Your points are well taken. At my age (63 next month), I am prone to take some chips off the table as the market climbs. The downside is the loss of potential future gains. I'm willing to pay that premium for locking in the gains of late. I'm still leaving the majority of my equities right where they are. What I do move to fixed income experiences smaller changes and increased dividends however insignificant they may be. And then there's my gold funds which is a whole nother ballgame. That's why it's called "gambling". And as you probably know from my rantings, I firmly believe politics affects markets.

[Robert Goren]

This coming from someone from Nebraska? Have you ever even met a black person? Ethnic makeup of Nebraska: 86% white, 4.5% black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska#Demographics A black lady live two doors down from me. I had a black lady and three black men worked for me. I have too many count fellow black employees including one boss. I am still in touch with the the black lady who worked for me and consider her a personal friend. In the small town I grew up in and return to live in the late 70s and early 80s had one black person in it. He worked for the NRCS. He was such a nice guy that many of bigots who lived there changed their tune. The aveage small town in Nebraska probably doesn't have any black residents. Almost all of the Blacks who live this state live in Lincoln and Omaha. When I was in college in the 1960s I lived in a dorm with many back athletes. I played poker with Nate Branch who later played for the Globe Trotters. Joe Orduna lived across the hall. He went on to play for the 49ers. You jumped to an idiotic conclusion.

[Robert Goren]

Your points are well taken. At my age (63 next month), I am prone to take some chips off the table as the market climbs. The downside is the loss of potential future gains. I'm willing to pay that premium for locking in the gains of late. I'm still leaving the majority of my equities right where they are. What I do move to fixed income experiences smaller changes and increased dividends however insignificant they may be. And then there's my gold funds which is a whole nother ballgame. That's why it's called "gambling". And as you probably know from my rantings, I firmly believe politics affects markets. At least you got that right.

[badcompany]

Your points are well taken. At my age (63 next month), I am prone to take some chips off the table as the market climbs. The downside is the loss of potential future gains. I'm willing to pay that premium for locking in the gains of late. I'm still leaving the majority of my equities right where they are. What I do move to fixed income experiences smaller changes and increased dividends however insignificant they may be. And then there's my gold funds which is a whole nother ballgame. That's why it's called "gambling". And as you probably know from my rantings, I firmly believe politics affects markets.

It's a perfectly legit way to play.

I limit risk a bit differently. I set an arbitrary point below the market, and if that point is penetrated, I sell out my positions and take a defensive, cash or cash-like, position.

If the market crashes, my strategy insures I don't crash with it. Of course, like all strategies, it has a downside. If the downward movement is just a correction, I will have sold out needlessly and must buy back at higher prices. That's the premium for the crash protection.

[NJ Stinks]

As the saying goes, "some people work for a living, some people vote for a living". That is why it's getting harder for conservatives to win elections. The people who want nothing to do with personal responsibility are multiplying like rabbits because with every birth, their government check goes up. And as these offspring grow into adulthood, the parent (usually a mother who has no idea where the father is or in some cases even WHO he is) schools the offspring on how to get their very own government check. And how to vote to keep the cycle going ad infinitum. As for those southern states and plains states, you will see more and more successful people moving to them from states inhabited largely by those who breed (and vote) for a living. There is no denying that trend and not only has it started, but it's in full swing. Now you can make this about race (or racism) if you want but the statistics are quite real. People who WANT to work and be productive without having to see huge chunks of their taxes go to people who don't lift a finger are relocating to states with low unemployment where a far superior work ethic exists among the residents. I think most of us would rather live in a place where everyone pulls their own weight. That isn't racism, it's common sense.

I hope lots of people move. I don't care where. We have far too many people in the Northeast and NJ especially.

As for why conservatives lose elections, I'll leave the excuses to you.

[Mike at A+]

It's a perfectly legit way to play.

I limit risk a bit differently. I set an arbitrary point below the market, and if that point is penetrated, I sell out my positions and take a defensive, cash or cash-like, position.

If the market crashes, my strategy insures I don't crash with it. Of course, like all strategies, it has a downside. If the downward movement is just a correction, I will have sold out needlessly and must buy back at higher prices. That's the premium for the crash protection.
My strategy also includes the option of going heavier back into the same equities I'm selling in the event of a correction. Where that happens is basically a gut feeling based on current political climate. If I sold 5,000 shares at an average price of $20/share ($100,000) and I could buy those same 5,000 shares back at $80,000, it's something to consider. The remaining $20,000 I keep in fixed is "gravy". Then again if the bottom is even lower, the game is played from the opposite perspective where you have to hope the market goes up. My old college Physics professor back in 1967 told us on day one of his class "I'm going to tell you something that you need to remember throughout the year and it's the most important thing I'm going to say. F=ma. Don't forget that and you will do great." Well most of us put that on the back burner and didn't realize until the end of the semester how important it really was. With investing, "buy low, sell high" is the equivalent. We just don't know what low and high are until it's too late unless you pay close attention. That is the main reason why I switched from Fox News to Fox Business Network. It keeps my finger on the pulse of the economy and the politics that affect it. While there are many rich liberals and rich conservatives, I'm willing to bet that non-rich conservatives pay closer attention than non-rich liberals to these things because we believe more in personal responsibility. Then again, the conventional family unit is more typical of conservatives than it is with liberals choose different lifestyles. Knowing that liberal politicians will cater to these folks to the point where it may damage the bottom lines of the more responsible among us is a good thing to be aware of when investing.

[Mike at A+]

I hope lots of people move. I don't care where. We have far too many people in the Northeast and NJ especially.

As for why conservatives lose elections, I'll leave the excuses to you.
Well when you have 95% of blacks voting Democrat (a statistic that defies every law of probability), a media that wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass and propaganda that is swallowed hook, line and sinker by low information voters, it isn't an "excuse" as much as it is an explanation.

[johnhannibalsmith]

I hope lots of people move. I don't care where. We have far too many people in the Northeast and NJ especially.

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So what the f is stopping you? I thought your VW Golf got great mileage? :D

[Robert Goren]

Well when you have 95% of blacks voting Democrat (a statistic that defies every law of probability), a media that wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass and propaganda that is swallowed hook, line and sinker by low information voters, it isn't an "excuse" as much as it is an explanation.Historically the stock market does better under a democratic president than under a GOP one.

[dartman51]

A black lady live two doors down from me. I had a black lady and three black men worked for me. I have too many count fellow black employees including one boss. I am still in touch with the the black lady who worked for me and consider her a personal friend. In the small town I grew up in and return to live in the late 70s and early 80s had one black person in it. He worked for the NRCS. He was such a nice guy that many of bigots who lived there changed their tune. The aveage small town in Nebraska probably doesn't have any black residents. Almost all of the Blacks who live this state live in Lincoln and Omaha. When I was in college in the 1960s I lived in a dorm with many back athletes. I played poker with Nate Branch who later played for the Globe Trotters. Joe Orduna lived across the hall. He went on to play for the 49ers. You jumped to an idiotic conclusion.

Since you're throwing in sports figures. One of the GREATEST pitchers of all time, hails from Omaha. Bob Gibson. Oh, and yes , he's black too. :ThmbUp:

[Robert Goren]

Since you're throwing in sports figures. One of the GREATEST pitchers of all time, hails from Omaha. Bob Gibson. Oh, and yes , he's black too. :ThmbUp:Yes he does, but I have never met him.

[BlueShoe]

A conservative needs a small turnout to win outside of the southern and plains states.
You left out the central and northern Rockies states, that go strongly for the right wing of the GOP. In an earlier post was mentioned northern Idaho in a sarcastic manner. Nice country, pretty conservative. The last time I was there, there was a neat OTB site in Post Falls.

[Robert Goren]

You left out the central and northern Rockies states, that go strongly for the right wing of the GOP. In an earlier post was mentioned northern Idaho in a sarcastic manner. Nice country, pretty conservative. The last time I was there, there was a neat OTB site in Post Falls.And the birthplace of one Sarah Louise Heath to boot. What more could a conservative want in a place to live.

[Tom]

Where do you get this stuff, MAD magazine?

[Mike at A+]

You left out the central and northern Rockies states, that go strongly for the right wing of the GOP. In an earlier post was mentioned northern Idaho in a sarcastic manner. Nice country, pretty conservative. The last time I was there, there was a neat OTB site in Post Falls.
We passed through (and stayed one night) in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho on the way back from a cross country trip in 2011. Beautiful place and I saw no indication that blacks weren't welcome there at the lake, in the restaurants and at the hotels.

[BlueShoe]

We passed through (and stayed one night) in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho on the way back from a cross country trip in 2011. Beautiful place and I saw no indication that blacks weren't welcome there at the lake, in the restaurants and at the hotels.
My former SO had extended family in Spokane, and we would drive up from SoCal and after the visit would then sightsee and take different routes home. Spent some time in Northern Idaho, and saw nary a skinhead, swastika, or hooded robe. Funny what fantasies the looney left has. They would have to look very long and hard to find what they imagine to be behind every fence, and might come back disappointed and quite empty handed.