The Pope is Quitting

[Shelby]

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-resigns-saying-no-longer-strength-fulfill-ministry-112923467.html


Kind of shocked me when I read this!


I love the mysterious process that takes place when they elect a new Pope.

[Marshall Bennett]

From what I gather it's highly unusual for a pope to resign. Tradition in the church suggest they remain till they die regardless of illness or whatever.
Believe it's happened only once where one stepped down.

[Greyfox]

The first Pope to resign in nearly 600 years.

Coincidentally I am just finishing off Dan Brown's book "Angels and Demons" which involves a sinister plot to destroy the Vatican.
Brown mentions that over the years several Popes have probably been poisoned, including Pope John Paul I who died after just serving 33 days in 1978. No autopsy is ever performed on Popes.

(Aside from that tidbit, I really wouldn't recommend this book by Brown.
The time compression of events makes it very unbelievable.)

[Dave Schwartz]

I like the story about the female Pope. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan)

[johnhannibalsmith]

...
(Aside from that tidbit, I really wouldn't recommend this book by Brown.
The time compression of events makes it very unbelievable.)

Strangely, it was one of those books that I found difficult to NOT read once I began it, but likewise, I was never really sure if I actually liked it. But I felt the same way about the DaVinci Code too. There's something intriguing about the way he blends unique characters, crime-mystery, and then uses these settings of historical relevance as backdrops to the events that unfold in somewhat rapidfire succession.

But, at the end of it all - there just seems to be something missing - like I expect there to be some broader message that never materializes. I actually thought Angels and Demons was better at doing this and made a greater attempt with the religion/science relationships, but that particular element seemed sloppily reconciled while every other aspect of the novels seems almost obsessively meticulous with detail and precision.

[Shelby]

I like the story about the female Pope. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan)


Interesting! I didn't know any of this.

[Shelby]

From Twitter --made me laugh


Will Ferrell ‏@Will___Ferrell
The Pope is hardly the first person to lose interest in their real job so soon after joining Twitter.

[elysiantraveller]

They are good "trash" novels as I like to call them. Trash as in the reader won't gain anything of significance in reading them but they are mildly researched and the pacing of Brown's style makes them very quick reading.

Good airport books IMO.

[horses4courses]

He must not have been happy with his Xmas bonus.
Hardly "unemployment eligible", either........ ;)

[ldiatone]

good book on how to kidnap the pope

"The road to gandolfo" r ludlum

[Bettowin]

Obama will become the next pope and rule the world.

[JustRalph]

52% of Catholics voted for Obama

He should have resigned the day after the election

[thaskalos]

What do you expect, when you hire a man to do a job at 79 years of age?

Ridiculous...

[Tom]

You don't "hire" a Pope.:rolleyes:

[OTM Al]

Interesting! I didn't know any of this.

It's ok because it's not true.....

[OTM Al]

The first Pope to resign in nearly 600 years.

Coincidentally I am just finishing off Dan Brown's book "Angels and Demons" which involves a sinister plot to destroy the Vatican.
Brown mentions that over the years several Popes have probably been poisoned, including Pope John Paul I who died after just serving 33 days in 1978. No autopsy is ever performed on Popes.

(Aside from that tidbit, I really wouldn't recommend this book by Brown.
The time compression of events makes it very unbelievable.)

Also fiction. Brown is entertaining, but it is conspiracy theory stuff at its best

[thaskalos]

You don't "hire" a Pope.:rolleyes:

Figure of speech.

The job clearly requires men younger than 79 years old.

But I suppose now you will tell me that being the Pope is not a "job"...:rolleyes:

[Tom]

It is not.
And he did a good job for 6 years.
Now he has the sense to retire.
Maybe he should have consulted you first?:rolleyes:

[thaskalos]

It is not.
And he did a good job for 6 years.
Now he has the sense to retire.
Maybe he should have consulted you first?:rolleyes:

No...

Maybe I should be consulting you whenever I decide to post. :rolleyes:

[PaceAdvantage]

No...

Maybe I should be consulting you whenever I decide to post. :rolleyes:You used the word "Ridiculous" when commenting on the present Pope and the fact he was chosen for the post.

When you use words like that, you should expect a little blowback.

[thaskalos]

You used the word "Ridiculous" when commenting on the present Pope and the fact he was chosen for the post.

When you use words like that, you should expect a little blowback.

The word "ridiculous" was not meant as a comment about the present Pope. It was my assessment of the practice of selecting a Pope who was already 79 years old when he took office.

Tom has made much more disparaging remarks in the past...directly aimed at people in all positions of power and authority. It didn't seem to be that big a deal.

He is the Pope...not Jesus Christ. Although there was a time when the Popes considered themselves something similar.

In any case...please forgive the intrusion. I should have known better...

[johnhannibalsmith]

...

In any case...please forgive the intrusion. I should have known better...

Oh quit it...

Who the f wants to read a thread where someone isn't pissing on someone else's fruit loops?

:kiss:

[Jay Trotter]

It is not.
And he did a good job for 6 years.
Now he has the sense to retire.
Maybe he should have consulted you first?:rolleyes:It's not a job -- but he did a good "job" for 6 years! :faint::lol::faint:

[mostpost]

I nominate Boxcar.

[mostpost]

The oldest Pope at the time of election was Clement X, elected in 1670 at the age of 79 years, 290 days. The oldest at the time of death was Leo XIII, elected in 1878 and 93 years, 140 days old when he died.

The youngest pope was Benedict IX who was thought to be between 18 and 20 when made Pope around 1032, but may have been as young as 11 or 12. I say made Pope rather than elected or selected, because his family was very powerful at the time and pretty much just said he was going to be Pope. I am pretty sure that Benedict is not the one the current Pope used as his inspiration.

[JustRalph]

No truth to the rumor that Obama advisers have already told Obama that if they see black smoke , he has not been elected Pope

[johnhannibalsmith]

I nominate Boxcar.

I thought about posting that too, but I was actually afraid it might actually launch Box into some kind of rant that I wouldn't understand and at that point I'd be pot committed. :D

[PaceAdvantage]

The word "ridiculous" was not meant as a comment about the present Pope. It was my assessment of the practice of selecting a Pope who was already 79 years old when he took office.I was fully aware of this fact when I made my reply to you. I didn't think you were calling the current pope ridiculous. I knew you were calling the SELECTION of this current pope ridiculous because to you, he is was somehow too old at age 73 to take on the position.

Tom has made much more disparaging remarks in the past...directly aimed at people in all positions of power and authority. It didn't seem to be that big a deal.Yeah, no kidding. All I said was, when you use the word ridiculous to describe the selection process for pope, expect someone to take you to task. Don't feign shock that someone might have a problem with your opinion.

He is the Pope...not Jesus Christ. Although there was a time when the Popes considered themselves something similar.

In any case...please forgive the intrusion. I should have known better...Oh Lordy...here we go...can the "I'm being picked on by the PA in-crowd" not be too far around the corner?

Come on Thask...don't play that card...THAT would be RIDICULOUS....

[098poi]

With all due respect maybe if he took that hat off more often he wouldn't get fatigued so easily.

[TJDave]

You used the word "Ridiculous" when commenting on the present Pope and the fact he was chosen for the post.


Whenever I want to be taken seriously I wear ruby red slippers.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Whenever I want to be taken seriously I wear ruby red slippers.

Well, I'd buy that for a dollar.

[horses4courses]

Courtesy of Paddy Power bookmakers in Ireland, here is the betting for Pope:

Cardinal Peter Turkson (Ghana)
3/1
Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada)
7/2
Cardinal Francis Arinze (Nigeria)
9/2
Cardinal Leonardo Sandri (Argentina)
6/1
Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga (Honduras)
7/1
Archbishop Angelo Scola (Italy)
8/1
Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi (Italy)
8/1
Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco (Italy)
12/1
Cardinal Christoph Schonborn (Austria)
14/1
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (Italy)
16/1
Cardinal Claudio Hummes (Brazil)
20/1
Cardinal Timothy Dolan (USA)
25/1

Assorted others receive quotes at higher odds, including Bono @ 1000-1 ;)

[johnhannibalsmith]

Courtesy of Paddy Power bookmakers in Ireland, here is the betting for Pope:

;)

Now that is funny. Dan Brown should get with Dick Francis and roll with that concept of shady insider wagering.

[boxcar]

I nominate Boxcar.

Thanks a bunch. But my Protestant credentials are too strong. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[PaceAdvantage]

Whenever I want to be taken seriously I wear ruby red slippers.If only his "ridiculous" were on the same level as yours...but alas...it was not...your type of ridiculous just muddies the water...

[Jay Trotter]

I think the "E" types (Italians) will cancel each other out so if your gonna dutch your bets you can safely toss those guys!

[TJDave]

If only his "ridiculous" were on the same level as yours...but alas...it was not...your type of ridiculous just muddies the water...


We'd rather drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log

Pope Pagliaccio XXI

[sandpit]

Now that is funny. Dan Brown should get with Dick Francis and roll with that concept of shady insider wagering.

Unfortunately, he can't, since Francis has been residing with all the other popes in history for a couple of years now.

[Tom]

Too bad our election is over.....The Pontiff could have run for president.
As Obama as shown us, neither citizenship nor hard world are required for that job. :rolleyes:

[johnhannibalsmith]

Unfortunately, he can't, since Francis has been residing with all the other popes in history for a couple of years now.

Yeah, but I couldn't think of another author that worked in that example. :D

[nearco]

I heard he wanted to spend more time with the wife and kids.

[Jay Trotter]

Yeah, but I couldn't think of another author that worked in that example. :DIf you were on your game you could've went with Felix Francis who continues to write the Dick Francis series. Alas, you moved prematurely and lost in the final strides. :lol:

[johnhannibalsmith]

If you were on your game you could've went with Felix Francis who continues to write the Dick Francis series. Alas, you moved prematurely and lost in the final strides. :lol:

Hey, I've already learned something new today. I had no idea that the stories were still being written. :ThmbUp:

[Greyfox]

Fact: A bolt of lightning struck the Vatican (St. Peters Basilica) on the day the Pope resigned.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/11/article-2276884-17841A9A000005DC-22_634x815.jpg

[Tom]

IT has been reported, from insiders, that he is just too pooped to pope.

[badcompany]

I heard he wanted to spend more time with the wife and kids.

I laughed :ThmbUp:

[Bettowin]

Courtesy of Paddy Power bookmakers in Ireland, here is the betting for Pope:

Cardinal Peter Turkson (Ghana)
3/1
Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada)
7/2
Cardinal Francis Arinze (Nigeria)
9/2
Cardinal Leonardo Sandri (Argentina)
6/1
Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga (Honduras)
7/1
Archbishop Angelo Scola (Italy)
8/1
Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi (Italy)
8/1
Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco (Italy)
12/1
Cardinal Christoph Schonborn (Austria)
14/1
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (Italy)
16/1
Cardinal Claudio Hummes (Brazil)
20/1
Cardinal Timothy Dolan (USA)
25/1

Assorted others receive quotes at higher odds, including Bono @ 1000-1 ;)


$100 million bet from Vatican City not accepted:)

[classhandicapper]

$100 million bet from Vatican City not accepted:)

Laugh of the day! :lol:

[Golf and Horses]

Courtesy of Paddy Power bookmakers in Ireland, here is the betting for Pope:

Cardinal Peter Turkson (Ghana)
3/1
Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada)
7/2
Cardinal Francis Arinze (Nigeria)
9/2
Cardinal Leonardo Sandri (Argentina)
6/1
Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga (Honduras)
7/1
Archbishop Angelo Scola (Italy)
8/1
Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi (Italy)
8/1
Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco (Italy)
12/1
Cardinal Christoph Schonborn (Austria)
14/1
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (Italy)
16/1
Cardinal Claudio Hummes (Brazil)
20/1
Cardinal Timothy Dolan (USA)
25/1

Assorted others receive quotes at higher odds, including Bono @ 1000-1 ;)
I'm throwing in with Saint Malachy and his Prophecy of the Popes. The next Pope will be the LAST Pope and he will be named Peter the Roman. So it could be the favorite or one of the Italians. ;)

[Jay Trotter]

Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada) 7/2

I was going to throw my money down on the Canadian but then I found out he is from Quebec. Faux Canadien!!!

[Golf and Horses]

Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada) 7/2


Wasn't he a goalie for the Nordiques? :D

[Tom]

The Cardinals will heading to the Vatican to elect the new Pope soon.
When someone sees the first Cardinal, does that mean spring is here?

[badcompany]

Wasn't he a goalie for the Nordiques? :D

Actually, he's an outstanding harness driver.;)

http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/files/Luc-Ouellette-02.jpg

http://www.worldclasstrotting.com/NorthAmerica/Pictures_UsTrottersYears/C/CrysDream_Elegantimage_110618.jpg

[Rookies]

I thought about posting that too, but I was actually afraid it might actually launch Box into some kind of rant that I wouldn't understand and at that point I'd be pot committed. :D

:lol:

EXCELLENT!

While his health is declining at his age,that appears to be the #1 Factor.

Behind the scenes reports suggest that in his role(s) as hard line conservative protector of the Church and its traditions and dogma, pre and during his papacy, there was waaaay too much protecting and covering up of those who should get the death penalty- the pedo abuser priests.

[Rookies]

Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada) 7/2

I was going to throw my money down on the Canadian but then I found out he is from Quebec. Faux Canadien!!!

Not only that Jay. Anyone who has visited the 'Other Nation' in the past 20 years has observed their small towns dominated by huge ancient parishes out front.

And inside?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobody!

The Catholic Church in Quebec, even more so than North America, is in perilous decline. I believe only Africa and Asia are increasing membership and perhaps that is where the new Pope should come from.

[badcompany]

Not only that Jay. Anyone who has visited the 'Other Nation' in the past 20 years has observed their small towns dominated by huge ancient parishes out front.

And inside?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobody!

The Catholic Church in Quebec, even more so than North America, is in perilous decline. I believe only Africa and Asia are increasing membership and perhaps that is where the new Pope should come from.

Maybe they should lower the takeout.

[Ocala Mike]

New dish appeared on the breakfast menu at the Denny's in Vatican City:

EX BENEDICT. You know it's done when white smoke comes out of the kitchen.

[Tom]

My pick is Cardinal Scola of Notre Dame.

Pope Scola.....the real thing!

[badcompany]

I believe this man would make an excellent Pope.

http://blog.timesunion.com/saratogaseen/files/2010/08/andy.jpg

[Golf and Horses]

Now I'm rooting for this guy!
http://s3.vidimg.popscreen.com/original/17/eGw4cjR3MTI=_o_saturday-night-live-weekend-update-father-guido-sarducci.jpg

[fast4522]

You mean this guy?

[ElKabong]

FGS' bit on the music vid of No Way Out, was hilarious. Still have that "Lie" sign in my mind in meetings sometimes. Some 30 yrs later it's still funny as heck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctuqceo390o

[Tom]

OK, I got a list of the rules.

Black smoke - no new Pope yet
White smoke - new Pope has been elected
Grey smoke - just burning evidence

[Ocala Mike]

Karl Rove: "That's not black smoke, it's white, I tell you, and Mitt Romney's the new pontiff!"

[Tom]

Yes, he got the Jewish and Morman vote!

[hcap]

Does that mean Dick Morris is going to be re-hired?

[Mike at A+]

With all this black smoke rising from Vatican City, wouldn't it be a pisser if the Cardinals were smoking hash?

[Tom]

Or killing polar bears! :lol:

[Mike at A+]

We have white smoke! Hopefully there aren't too many Cardinals from Chicago or there might be voter fraud and 0bama will be declared the new Pope.

[Tom]

Come on Pope Scola.....pleeeeeeeze! :lol:

[Mike at A+]

Will they give the vote tally? Important for exacta, trifecta and superfecta wagering?

[PhantomOnTour]

With all this black smoke rising from Vatican City, wouldn't it be a pisser if the Cardinals were smoking hash?
The Pope smokes dope ? :eek:

[Tom]

And the winner is..................

[Valuist]

From Steve Dahl, a popular local radio personality:

"Let me get this straight; if they elect a new pope, then Whitesnake has to play on the roof at the Vatican?

Maybe they can bring Tawny Kitean in on a Jaguar to announce the new pope.

[Tom]

This begs the question.....is the new Pope Catholic? :rolleyes:

Well, at 76, he certainly is a spring chicken compared to the last one.

Pope Frances......from Argentina.

Good luck, Father.....you're gonna need it! :eek:

[FantasticDan]

Well, at 76, he certainly is a spring chicken compared to the last one.He's just a couple yrs younger than Benedict was when he was chosen. They'll be doing this all over again before you know it.

[Mike at A+]

It is now Pope Time ...

[Tom]

The news reached Argentina by way of a soccer announcer, who heard it on the radio and reported to the live crowd at the stadium.....


POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE!
POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE!