Was it the blinkers

[Beachbabe]

Aqu...race 6....Take the El Train.
0 fer trainer; with unknown jock; Loses his first 2 races by 40 lengths & steps up today off the last effort. Adds blinkers & wins wire-to-wire & pays $259.

[JustRalph]

Aqu...race 6....Take the El Train.
0 fer trainer; with unknown jock; Loses his first 2 races by 40 lengths & steps up today off the last effort. Adds blinkers & wins wire-to-wire & pays $259.

Ah yes,,,,,,,,,,,,the old stick a roo!!

If I were in charge I would demand to know every person who cashed.......

[nijinski]

He is the kind of trainer you just have to like if you knew his story which was written up some years ago .

He is a former Chef who always wanted to train on the track . He survived an explosion at the restaurant he worked at and was very seriously injured . I believe he was near death .

He learned to train from a course ,sorry with whom I can't remember . He claimed the feed was extrelely important to him and he understood that from being a Chef .

Good to see someone like Prine with a dream like this in the winners circle .
So maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

As far as this win is concerned , would have been tough to pick this horse .
The only argument you can make is the blinkers a slow break and a little trouble in each race . Not much to work with and most would eliminate . .

[lamboguy]

my odds model had that horse 11.4-1 on the incremental and 19.1-1 on the total.

the field stunk, anything was possible that race.

[Tom]

Wow. Got some some great stock running this winter!:rolleyes:
I was watching re-runs of Bamazon.....I think I made the right choice.

[Robert Goren]

A Golden Rail for inside early speed didn't hurt either. Make a note of this trainer and move on.

[speed]

Wow. Got some some great stock running this winter!:rolleyes:
I was watching re-runs of Bamazon.....I think I made the right choice.
Popcorn, twizzlers and perhaps a nestle bar for the live show at 10 tonight?

[ten2oneormore]

Aqu...race 6....Take the El Train.
0 fer trainer; with unknown jock; Loses his first 2 races by 40 lengths & steps up today off the last effort. Adds blinkers & wins wire-to-wire & pays $259.


Sometimes horses get brave the first time they taste the lead or maybe afraid of whats coming behind them .

[Tom]

Popcorn, twizzlers and perhaps a nestle bar for the live show at 10 tonight?

Ice Cream....it is HOT down there! :lol:

(Posted during the live show)

[phattty]

i vaguely remember Prine winning with major bomber about 8 or 9 years ago

[johnhannibalsmith]

i vaguely remember Prine winning with major bomber about 8 or 9 years ago

Won with his first ever starter at 70-1 or something about four or five years ago. Pretty sure he hadn't won another race since then until today.

[tzipi]

A Golden Rail for inside early speed didn't hurt either. Make a note of this trainer and move on.

Don't think I'll make note of him. First win in 5 years and is now 2-96 in last 6 years. Shocking this horse won. :eek:

[fiveouttasix]

3rd career start & 1st time Route is an angle I look for & play. I don't play them all & obviously did not play this one...I saw it before the race and decided to pass.

[pandy]

I also thought his horse had a shot at a price when I first started handicapping the race, but dismissed him because the trainer had never won a race, but the horse did have longshot angles, sharply improved pace figure in 2nd career start, only 3 lengths behind at a first call that was two ticks faster than par, and of course stretching out for third career start with blinkers on from an inside post going a mile in a race with very little speed. At a mile the races start right in front of the turn over the inner track so it is a huge advantage to the first three or four posts. As someone noted, the track was speed favoring yesterday and I also didn't expect that when I handicapped on Saturday. There were definitely longshot angles here but I'm sure the odds were so high because of the trainer.

[johnhenry81]

"Prime Prine" Anyone remember that music from John Prine?

Anyway, David Prine does indeed have a tough history, as he was severely injured, (burned) and has had to learn to walk and talk again.

I don't argue that this horse cashed a few tickets for him, but he did provide warning with the distance switch (horse is bred to route) and adding the hood.

[tzipi]

What's David Prine's career record on the stretch out or blinkers on?

[pandy]

I believe this is the first race he's ever won.

[tzipi]

I believe this is the first race he's ever won.

Prine has won before.

[therussmeister]

David Prine


2013 Statistics:

Starts: 4
Firsts: 1
Seconds: 0
Thirds: 0
Earnings: $23,265
Avg. Earnings Per Start: $5,816

Career Statistics:

Starts: 95
Firsts: 2
Seconds: 2
Thirds: 5
Earnings: $123,374
Avg. Earnings Per Start: $1,299

All Years
Year Starts Firsts Seconds Thirds Earnings
2013 4 1 0 0 $23,265
2012 23 0 0 0 $6,803
2011 14 0 0 2 $11,029
2010 8 0 0 0 $1,310
2009 28 0 2 3 $42,577
2008 18 1 0 0 $38,390

[andicap]

OK, 2% winner but what a flat-bet profit!!;)

If he was a longshot in his first win, he can lose ANOTHER 50 races and still claim a positive ROI.

I hope he had $2 on his own horse.

[Beachbabe]

David Prine


2013 Statistics:

Starts: 4
Firsts: 1
Seconds: 0
Thirds: 0
Earnings: $23,265
Avg. Earnings Per Start: $5,816

Career Statistics:

Starts: 95
Firsts: 2
Seconds: 2
Thirds: 5
Earnings: $123,374
Avg. Earnings Per Start: $1,299

All Years
Year Starts Firsts Seconds Thirds Earnings
2013 4 1 0 0 $23,265
2012 23 0 0 0 $6,803
2011 14 0 0 2 $11,029
2010 8 0 0 0 $1,310
2009 28 0 2 3 $42,577
2008 18 1 0 0 $38,390


Looks like it's all coming together for him in 2013. This could be his break-out year !!!! ;) :rolleyes:

[therussmeister]

Looks like it's all coming together for him in 2013. This could be his break-out year !!!! ;) :rolleyes:
That's what I thought in 2008. :D

[Tom]

25% wins?
So, he is a super trainer?

[fiveouttasix]

He's at it again...Trainer David Prine Race 3 at Aqu today:
#7 Pencil Papers - PP's look almost exactly like Take The L Train
I will probably let him beat me again..LOL

[pandy]

I picked Pencil Papers on my Sharphorses Selection Service and on the Clocker Lawton sheet that's sold at Aqueduct. 7-2-1

Pencil Papers showed nothing in first two starts but gets blinkers, rider change, first time tag, and stretches out for the first time with suitable pedigree for the distance.

[dkithore]

What's David Prine's career record on the stretch out or blinkers on?

Are u serious? LOL

[Stillriledup]

Dejavu all over again? :lol:

[deathandgravity]

Learned my lesson with Take the L Train.
:jump:

[Stillriledup]

Learned my lesson with Take the L Train.
:jump:

:ThmbUp: Good job, hope you crushed it!

[MightBeSosa]

Folks like to mock things they don't understand.

Much of the time they'd find better material standing in front of a mirror.

[Beachbabe]

Hey,you guys got me to thank !!

:rolleyes:

[Stillriledup]

Hey,you guys got me to thank !!

:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcfqDPAy7zc :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :D

[tzipi]

Are u serious? LOL


Why ask me a month after my post, after he wins?? :D But my question was a joke anyway. ;)

[Stillriledup]

Prine alert, March 14, Race 6, Aqueduct, #1 Ride Em Cowboy, first time Blinkers, first time 2 turns. 20-1 ML.

[deathandgravity]

With Julissa!

I suspect off odds are ~ 7-1

ROI this meet on Pine/Julissa/Blinkers On & First Route is unreal :faint:

[pandy]

That was a snappy first quarter last time, she'll probably gun him to a big early lead...but can he hang on?

[Stillriledup]

Maybe its an optical illusion, but doesnt it appear that Laredo is a 150lb exercise rider? Watch the tapes and she looks twice as big as the other jocks in the race. maybe its the way her clothes fit (or dont fit) and the way she sits on the horse, but she looks bigger than the other riders....or, i need my eyes checked.

[deathandgravity]

Maybe its an optical illusion, but doesnt it appear that Laredo is a 150lb exercise rider? Watch the tapes and she looks twice as big as the other jocks in the race. maybe its the way her clothes fit (or dont fit) and the way she sits on the horse, but she looks bigger than the other riders....or, i need my eyes checked. :lol:

Looked like she was practically standing up on Pencil Papers

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse_racing/tthrough_the_bionocs_OgUHqqhzK6XtSGpGVeJTaM

[pandy]

It's hard to say watching on TV. Perhaps someone who has seen her at the track can comment. The reason why I say that, she stands up throughout the entire race, an unusual style of riding, and this may make her look bigger.

Even in the stretch she is still high in the stirrups. She appears to have a very strong whip. The way she hits the horse, it looks like she tries to copy Ramon, she winds up and to my eyes it appears that the horses are really responding to her. A lot of top speed riders, Jorge Chavez comes to mind, have strong whip action which helps keep the horse going. She also doesn't appear to over rate the horse, she guns them to the lead and lets them set their own pace, another thing that the top speed riders do.

Edwin Maldonado in So. Cal. is a great front end rider and Julissa's style seems similar, and Edwin is a pretty tall rider compared to most.

[deathandgravity]

Not today.
Opened @ 5/2
Closed @ 8-1
Dropped anchor @ 1/2
Still hasn't crossed finish