Dave Schwartz's Live Play Sessions

[Dave Schwartz]

I am trying to do more "Live Play Sessions" this year.

Here is how to join:

1. Go to my website.
http://thehorsehandicappingauthority.com/

2. In the upper-right corner, you will see an icon:
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/Online%20Icon.png

Whenever it says, "Online," we are in session, although it might just be a chat going on between horseplayers.

I will be playing several mornings this week, usually starting with first post on the east coast.

I have played the last two days in front of a small audience. I would invite any attendees to post here and describe what they saw.

Lastly, this link will show my effort to date.
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/CurrentStats.png

Please note that I post my picks very close to post time.

Regards,
Dave Schwartz

[barn32]

Will you be betting real money or no money?

[cj]

Will you be betting real money or no money?

The guy is giving his opinions before the races are run. What more do you want? Geez...

[horses4courses]

Will you be betting real money or no money?

Just as long as he's not betting your money, huh.......... :rolleyes:

[barn32]

The guy is giving his opinions before the races are run. What more do you want? Geez...Obviously, you don't think it's a legitimate question, but I happen to disagree with you.

[Karmaexpress]

If a horse player is interested in playing multiple tracks...Dave puts on quite a show-- juggling multiple races at a time. Anyone interested in seeing a modern approach to beating the game should be checking out these free "Live Play Sessions". For my own play--recently coming back to racing after a 15 year hiatus--it's invaluable to see the quick and accurate decision making Dave exhibits so close to post time. It's not easy to put your money where your mouth is--I commend Dave for doing these sessions, and it's heartening to see someone actually profitable.




"Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies out of the gate, see them dwindle behind you, and to hear the lamentation of the women down the stretch. "

[Dave Schwartz]

Barn,

I have, in the past, done a few live play sessions where I was wagering some pretty substantial amounts of real money. Inevitably, I find myself getting shut out from a race or betting incorrectly; making some mistake.

For the record, I would NEVER again play with real money while I am busy talking. It is just too distracting.

However, I assure you that the handicapping and wagering process is precisely the same.

Yesterday I got shut out of a winner. Today I got shut out of a loser. In my experience, however, it does not even out.

There were a few minutes today where I was actually playing 8 tracks. LOL - I had a hard time finding TVs to put them on. And once I had the gate open on 3 races inside of like 10 seconds. (Won 2 out of the 3. LOL)


Regards,
Dave Schwartz

PS: I will NOT be playing tomorrow. There are just not enough tracks to make it interesting.

[Capper Al]

Barn,

I have, in the past, done a few live play sessions where I was wagering some pretty substantial amounts of real money. Inevitably, I find myself getting shut out from a race or betting incorrectly; making some mistake.

For the record, I would NEVER again play with real money while I am busy talking. It is just too distracting.

However, I assure you that the handicapping and wagering process is precisely the same.

Yesterday I got shut out of a winner. Today I got shut out of a loser. In my experience, however, it does not even out.

There were a few minutes today where I was actually playing 8 tracks. LOL - I had a hard time finding TVs to put them on. And once I had the gate open on 3 races inside of like 10 seconds. (Won 2 out of the 3. LOL)


Regards,
Dave Schwartz

PS: I will NOT be playing tomorrow. There are just not enough tracks to make it interesting.

Pittsburgh Phil stated the a gambler should have no distraction when gambling. If I remember right it was women at the track. Anyway, a distraction is a distraction.

[MrBaseball]

I have viewed many of Dave's "Live Play" sessions over the years and have marveled as to the many race decisions he makes within 0 minutes to post. Making numerous decisions at many tracks, surfaces, classes is truly amazing and enjoyable to view. In his latest setup, their is a chat setup so that you can also post one's selections as Dave makes his plays. Stop by........it's both informative and enjoyable. :) :ThmbUp:

[formula_2002]

The guy is giving his opinions before the races are run. What more do you want? Geez...
crackers!!

[Dave Schwartz]

I will be playing the 4 eastern tracks this morning for a couple of hours, beginning with first post.

[Dave Schwartz]

Technical difficulties caused us to switch to Goto Meeting.

https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/500214506

[TexasDolly]

Keep getting waiting for organizer message ongotomeeting
TD

[turninforhome10]

Dave, you should switch to using Ustream. It is really easy to setup and free to use. http://www.ustream.tv/new

[Dave Schwartz]

I have used Goto Webinar for years and decided to try GVO conference.

It was a total failure.

Then, when I went to Goto Webinar, somehow it sent me an invite to the wrong meeting (which I then posted).

So sorry, guys. We'll go again tomorrow but it will be a GotoWebinar link.

I will post it here.

[Dave Schwartz]

Hopefully today will not give us the many technical issues we ran into yesterday.

Here is the link to sign up for attending today's Live Play session (9am):

https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/687100586

[pktruckdriver]

Pacific time, meaning noon for us Easterner's?



patrick

[Dave Schwartz]

Correct. 9am pacific

[Dave Schwartz]

Played for a couple of hours today. Had an extraordinary day, going 9-for-9. Audience was only about 15 or so.

http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/2012-01-10.png

Individual wagers here:
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/2012-01-10-Bets.png


Current Stats
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/CurrentStats.png

[Dave Schwartz]

Sign up here:

Friday, 9am (pacific) (https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/750212050)

Saturday, 9am (pacific) (https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/399017282)

Sunday, 1pm (pacific) (https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/857934346)

[fiveouttasix]

I was in attendance ...Very Impressive!

[Dave Schwartz]

Sunday's session is going to be rescheduled to next week.

[Dave Schwartz]

Not A great day. Barely broke even before rebate.

This is a first: reading PA from my phone.

[Dave Schwartz]

Today
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/2012-01-11.png

Current Totals
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/CurrentStats.png

[Dave Schwartz]

Playing Live this morning:

https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/399017282

[Dave Schwartz]

Well, I wrapped up my 4-day, Phase I Test today, with a good drubbing, but learned a lot.

What have I learned?
1. My contender process is working very well. ***** stars
2. My wagering process works reasonably well. *** stars
3. My off-track play sucks. * star
4. My FTS contender selection works a little. ** stars

What must I work on?
1. Off-Track value-added factors.
2. How to handle races with multiple low-priced A+ horses.
3. Improved FTS contender approach.

At this point in my own development, I can see WHAT to improve (above) and now I need to figure out HOW to improve.
I hope you guys can see just how close it really is. More importantly for YOU, I hope you can see where you have to go. It all begins by asking those "good questions."

Final Stats
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/CurrentStats.png

Contender Selection: Great News!
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/Cont%20vs%20NC.png

Wagering: Good News
http://www.horsestreet.com/BBSImages/LiveShow/Bet%20vs%20Not.png

[andicap]

Dave,
Why not just stop playing off-tracks until you learn how to handle them? There are plenty of fast tracks to go around.

[Dave Schwartz]

Instead, I have built an approach that handles off track. Testing this week.

And also built a module for FTS.

[traveler]

You have confirmed what you should already know......

STOP insisting on trying to play maidens with too many FTS,
STOP playing off tracks
STOP trying to play races with multiple low-priced A+ horses

Western Union. STOP.

[Dave Schwartz]

LOL - Ah, the obvious.

Certainly your advice is sound. Thank you.

Or...

1. Figure out how to play maiden races with lots of FTS.
2. Figure out how to play off-tracks.
3. Figure out how to handle those races with lots of A+ horses.


BTW, I have handled #2 and #3 and, for now, at least, I have heeded your advice on #1.

[thaskalos]

...and, for now, at least, I have heeded your advice on #1.

You have finally come to your senses...:)

[traveler]

You have finally come to your senses...:)

I would actually submit Dave hasn't.

He has been using New Pace in some form for at least a year and the Renegade Handicapper type betting approach for months and months. I will be shocked if a monumental break-through has been achieved in a few days.

Makes no difference to me one way or the other. Best of luck/skill to all.

[Dave Schwartz]

He has been using New Pace in some form for at least a year and the Renegade Handicapper type betting approach for months and months. I will be shocked if a monumental break-through has been achieved in a few days.

Makes no difference to me one way or the other. Best of luck/skill to all.

Interesting opinion.

I would contend that most "discoveries" come in a moment and then take significant time to verify.

The logic of system development is that once step follows another in the process. I am very deep into the process; very close to completion, if there really is such a thing.


Ultimately, the proof lies in the pudding as the saying goes. We shall see what comes of this.

[DeltaLover]

1. Figure out how to play maiden races with lots of FTS.


I think this statement can initiate an interesting discussion as it contains one of the most fundamental handicapping truths.

The presence of several FTS is an extreme example of having very limited data availability, something that magnifies factors that otherwise are considered of secondary value.

Workouts, breeding and human connections are the most dominant criteria for this group since in the absence of past performances we cannot use speed figures, pace handicapping or anything similar.

A lot of handicapper and bettors consider a good practice to pass these races, a belief that they generalize for any race that is conducted under rare conditions, like for example a race that will run in the very rare distance of 1 5/16 or one containing several starters who have never before start on today's surface.

I would like to ask the posters here What they think about these types of races where very limited information is available for the exact profile of the race and how they justify their opinions?

[appistappis]

I have gotten some great hits from simply throwing out all the firsters

[thaskalos]

I think this statement can initiate an interesting discussion as it contains one of the most fundamental handicapping truths.

The presence of several FTS is an extreme example of having very limited data availability, something that magnifies factors that otherwise are considered of secondary value.

Workouts, breeding and human connections are the most dominant criteria for this group since in the absence of past performances we cannot use speed figures, pace handicapping or anything similar.

A lot of handicapper and bettors consider a good practice to pass these races, a belief that they generalize for any race that is conducted under rare conditions, like for example a race that will run in the very rare distance of 1 5/16 or one containing several starters who have never before start on today's surface.

I would like to ask the posters here What they think about these types of races where very limited information is available for the exact profile of the race and how they justify their opinions?

Being a vertical exotics bettor...I look with deep disdain at those races loaded with FTS.

I can find much better spots for my money.

[appistappis]

and right on cue, a firster just ran second at DD and cost me a tri...lol

[dav4463]

I have gotten some great hits from simply throwing out all the firsters


I get worried when a firster has a morning line of 8/1 or less. I would hesitate to throw that horse out of the exotics.

[Kevroc]

I would contend that most "discoveries" come in a moment and then take significant time to verify.



Yes. So much yes.

Agree a ton here.. my brainstorms are usually made at the end of the day when I'm in the shower and the business of the day has wound down and Boom! That big idea or "aha!" thought comes to mind and I spend the next few weeks/months verifying it. :D