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The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 06:42 PM
Race 1: on paper (8)LOUWALA CLOUGH is the lone speed of the field, cutting back in trip (has run well at 7f) for a competent route to sprint trainer, and she's got some back class (54 Beyer at the higher Md 15.000 level. The only negative is the lack of workouts.

NP

this filly has worked out in a official race, a good way to rise the odds for the next

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 07:07 PM
race 2: the favorite looks tired of competition and going downwards. (8)JUST STALLIN improved a ton in his debut for his new trainer (the barn is hot), he's got speed and will be dangerous if improving again.

3rd ($5.80)

Maximillion
01-03-2013, 07:22 PM
race 3

:5: Slammin Annie---split a field of straight mdns and it was a nicely improved effort.Should appreciate the added distance.

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 07:33 PM
race 3: (4)GUNITE GRACE is bred for the distance (Broken Vow x Waquoit) is improving, and showed good speed at 7f. Two good long workouts after her last race (I like this). The favorite (7) no speed no workouts...

3rd ($2.60)

lamboguy
01-03-2013, 07:50 PM
race 3: (4)GUNITE GRACE is bred for the distance (Broken Vow x Waquoit) is improving, and showed good speed at 7f. Two good long workouts after her last race (I like this). The favorite (7) no speed no workouts...

3rd ($2.60)
i have no idea how that horse never got the lead in that race. Delta Downs is the most impossible track for me my whole life. its the only track that i have shut myself off from.

Maximillion
01-03-2013, 07:58 PM
race 4

:4: El Cascador-----Im excusing the last race in the mud at 5f.Some signs of life in the previous two races(after a long layoff) and does have a bit of early lick when right.Chance to wake up here at long odds as there is no world beaters in this group.

appistappis
01-03-2013, 07:58 PM
hi lambo....I started with delta last night and it was simply find the speed. ......handicapping wise, reminded me of CT

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 08:01 PM
race 4: (6)LAWTONCIRCLE NP is the quickest out of the gate and the positive change of barn (19% first start) may have him sharper (48.4B). The same for (1)IT'S NO SECRET 2nd who is fast when the track has moisture.

win & win

2nd ($6.60 - 3.80)

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 08:04 PM
Lamboguy, my impossible to win tracks are Aqueduct and Parxs...

Maximillion
01-03-2013, 08:19 PM
i have no idea how that horse never got the lead in that race. Delta Downs is the most impossible track for me my whole life. its the only track that i have shut myself off from.


Add an apparent speed bias to an (already) difficult track definitly make things chaotic here :eek: .
I accept it and just try to stick with my plays....knowing I probably need a price.

lamboguy
01-03-2013, 08:24 PM
Add an apparent speed bias to an (already) difficult track definitly make things chaotic here :eek: .
I accept it and just try to stick with my plays....knowing I probably need a price.
its a great track if you play small money and play big prices.

appistappis
01-03-2013, 08:26 PM
not crazy about the trainer but I like the 6 brown gravy to be an improver here.

appistappis
01-03-2013, 08:30 PM
r5...ranked them 6/4/8

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 08:30 PM
race 5: the favorite (4) is solid for the exacta. Then the well bet (8)JET EMOTIONS for the exacta

exacta box 1st & 3rd

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 08:54 PM
race 6: the favorite (1)Sheer Speed finds a tough speed ball first time againts winners, (7)Phone Marybe. They could kill themselfs and put a red carpet to (2)BANDELLE, who last time closed 15 lenghts in hand, and her trainer is superb second after the layoff.

NP

appistappis
01-03-2013, 08:58 PM
1/2,7/2,7

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 09:02 PM
the day it's being tough, but there are still 4 bullets left...

Maximillion
01-03-2013, 09:13 PM
its a great track if you play small money and play big prices.

Lambo,

If I can ask, what is your favorite track to play?

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:16 PM
I'm finding it pretty tricky but I had a big hit at GP today so I'm sort of home and cooled out.

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:21 PM
r7....boxing the 4/10

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 09:21 PM
race 7: (10)A LITTLE LIGHT shows a pattern of big race> bounce > big race > bounce (61 > 44 > 57 > 36), has good tactical speed an just 5 runs in dirt routes (2 wins), and 2 good workouts after last race. (4)BARBSWHODAT[B] as a saver.

win & win
exacta box

we go in the same boat...

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:28 PM
lol we should warn the others with our picks.

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 09:28 PM
right now the track is playing chaos...

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:32 PM
maybe we can hit at penn in the ninth with the 6 horse

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:35 PM
forget it, he just went from 4-1 to 3-2......no value now

lamboguy
01-03-2013, 09:40 PM
Lambo,

If I can ask, what is your favorite track to play?i love Northlands and Assinoba, Mountaineer, Penn National and Arapaoe

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:45 PM
forget it, he just went from 4-1 to 3-2......no value now

he goes back up to 2-1 and wins for fun....go figure.

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 09:48 PM
race 8: the race flow points to stalker (7)AMAZON RULER, but comes of a layoff. (6)MININ TOWN is the speed of the speed training big

win & win & exacta box NP NP

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:51 PM
trying the 2

appistappis
01-03-2013, 09:57 PM
I really like the 6 in r7 at CT

Maximillion
01-03-2013, 10:00 PM
race 8

The :8: Feel the Greed is not gonna knock you out with his speed ratings but the 3rd in last was a lot better than it looked (from the rail).
Shifts outside 2nd off the layoff and should be a major factor.

The Spaniard
01-03-2013, 10:12 PM
race 9: (2)MC's ROCKSTAR closed big time againts open company while rising his Beyer 27 points in just 4 weeks. This gelding could be a runner. Looks like the favorite (6) has stamina problem.

and exactas

2-4
2-5

NP NP NP

is white flag for me...

tomorow will be another day

appistappis
01-03-2013, 10:37 PM
r10............2/1,3,6

good luck and good night

raybo
01-03-2013, 11:24 PM
Delta is not for everyone, but for some it is great profit. I played last night's card and tonight's card live on my forum, testing a new rankings method and literally killed the card last night. Played 9 of the 10 races, hitting 8 winners, 3 box exactas, 1 box trifecta, the Daily Double, 2 pick 3s (one of them paid over $2000 for $1, and would have had a pick 4 in the following race had there been a pick 4 in those 4 races).

$2 win profits, alone, were well over $100.

Tonight was a different story, $2 win profit/loss was $-28.80. Both cards were posted in the Selections section of my forum if you care to check it out.

DeD is my 2nd most profitable track behind OP. Like I said, DeD isn't conducive to traditional handicapping methods, so if you end up on lower priced horses most of the time, you will slowly die there (maybe not so slow!!).

appistappis
01-04-2013, 01:52 AM
raybo, do you find that there is a strong bias on a regular basis...yesterday, front end speed was money.

lamboguy
01-04-2013, 05:40 AM
Delta is not for everyone, but for some it is great profit. I played last night's card and tonight's card live on my forum, testing a new rankings method and literally killed the card last night. Played 9 of the 10 races, hitting 8 winners, 3 box exactas, 1 box trifecta, the Daily Double, 2 pick 3s (one of them paid over $2000 for $1, and would have had a pick 4 in the following race had there been a pick 4 in those 4 races).

$2 win profits, alone, were well over $100.

Tonight was a different story, $2 win profit/loss was $-28.80. Both cards were posted in the Selections section of my forum if you care to check it out.

DeD is my 2nd most profitable track behind OP. Like I said, DeD isn't conducive to traditional handicapping methods, so if you end up on lower priced horses most of the time, you will slowly die there (maybe not so slow!!).uncoventional handicapping will rule that place. i believe that you won there, someone has to and the way i do things i know its not going to be me. i could sit in
delta every morning and watch every horse train and still get blown away.

raybo
01-04-2013, 08:21 AM
raybo, do you find that there is a strong bias on a regular basis...yesterday, front end speed was money.

Bias is not a priority in my capping, anywhere, but no, I don't find an early bias on a regular basis at Delta. There was a pretty good early bias on Wednesday, but the track was muddy that day. Thursday the track was dry, or appeared dry to me, and there was not any evidence of early bias.

What I do find, at Delta, is that if you are a 1 horse bettor, and you use traditional handicapping methods, pace, speed, class, jockeys, trainers, etc., you will end up on a lot of low priced horses, and low priced horses don't rule at Delta, mid to high priced horses rule there.

My method is a multi-horse method, including horses that have different running styles. I never know which of my horses will win, but I do know that if any of them do, it will not be a low priced horse, I don't bet low priced horses, to win.

If you looked at a list of tracks sorted by average payouts of the winners, DeD would be very near the top. This, alone, tells you that conventional methods will lose there. OP is the same, as is EvD, and FG. These tracks are my bread and butter, in win betting and superfecta betting. The hit rate won't be as high as at other tracks, but the ROI really is outstanding.

raybo
01-04-2013, 08:26 AM
uncoventional handicapping will rule that place. i believe that you won there, someone has to and the way i do things i know its not going to be me. i could sit in
delta every morning and watch every horse train and still get blown away.

Delta is, indeed, very tough for the average player. Things that work at other tracks just don't work there. Remember, this is cajun country and cajuns are a bit different. Not saying that shady stuff goes on there, but it is an unusual place.

lamboguy
01-04-2013, 08:51 AM
please let me know the next time you run one of these handicapping sessions on your website so i can watch and learn something.

Maximillion
01-04-2013, 08:57 AM
Delta is not for everyone, but for some it is great profit. I played last night's card and tonight's card live on my forum, testing a new rankings method and literally killed the card last night. Played 9 of the 10 races, hitting 8 winners, 3 box exactas, 1 box trifecta, the Daily Double, 2 pick 3s (one of them paid over $2000 for $1, and would have had a pick 4 in the following race had there been a pick 4 in those 4 races).

$2 win profits, alone, were well over $100.

Tonight was a different story, $2 win profit/loss was $-28.80. Both cards were posted in the Selections section of my forum if you care to check it out.

DeD is my 2nd most profitable track behind OP. Like I said, DeD isn't conducive to traditional handicapping methods, so if you end up on lower priced horses most of the time, you will slowly die there (maybe not so slow!!).


You posted 3 or 4 horses in every race....you then play boxed exactas,trifectas,superfectas,.....DDs and pick3s and pick4s with all of your selections?
On top of the win bets?