M1 LIVE THURS 01/03

[botster]

We haven't done one of these in quite some time....:)
Let's give it a whirl.
Anyone can join in with selections or comments.First post 7:15.


Good Fortune:)

[Ray2000]

I can't be around for the live show Dan ,but here's my TT plays
If he has a big night, so will I

Glad to see you back, Good Luck with your picks

These are Win and Key box Exactas

R4.....1/2,6 ...Lizzie'S Dream-8/1.............TT and the Rail

R7.....1/4,10 ...Sheer Desire-7/2.............TT..."..."..."

R8.....7/3,5 ...Four Starzzz King-7/2.........TT again 12/1 winner at Chester

R9.....8/10,2 ...Swagger Begonia-10/1......TT again

[botster]

Happy New Year to you Ray...Thanks and good trips to the winners circle to you tonight!:)

[botster]

These first two aren't worth playing for me.I will watch.

[botster]

I won with 4 PT LUCY on that race 2 back at Freehold.This horse is has been sharper of late.Throw that last one out with Morgan and that quick mile.Abbatiello goes to his own horse and we get the better driver with Dube.This horse should present some value here.

7 LEAHS EX is sort of the obvious in this weak crew.
8 STRIKING FOREVER
3 AX MAN
2DOUBLE UP HANOVER

Seem like the others that have the class over these.

[melman]

Hey Bots best of trips of your horses tonight.

R3 I'll go with 10-6-8

[botster]

TP LUCY TROUNED JOEY THE JET teo back a horse that had defeated him twice back in October.This horse I think will take well to the big track.

4 w/p
4/2-3-7-8 in a box.

I don't like the #6 here SOUTHWIND AUSTIN-When the Millers leave a trotter they usually regress.This horse shows nothing on the form which would give me the desire to use him.I thought he would be a bit shorter though...8-1 right now with 0 minutes to post.

[melman]

Rest of the Club Med card

R4 8-5
R5 7-4-8
R6 3-1-4
R7 9-1-7
R8 5-2-6
R9 4-1

[botster]

Hey Bots best of trips of your horses tonight.

R3 I'll go with 10-6-8

The 2 broke there very late...u may get this one Mel.

[botster]

The 2 broke there very late...u may get this one Mel.

U should get it.Nice call!

[melman]

Have no part of the exacta so would be nice to be put up. Close call IMO. Have a wp bet but the cash is in the win.

[melman]

Starting the new year of right. A 10-1 horse put up to the win slot. :) I remember these and forgot the takedowns as soon as I can. :)

[botster]

Starting the new year of right. A 10-1 horse put up to the win slot. :) I remember these and forgot the takedowns as soon as I can. :)

They even out...don't u know that????...;)

[botster]

TP LUCY TROUNED JOEY THE JET teo back a horse that had defeated him twice back in October.This horse I think will take well to the big track.

4 w/p
4/2-3-7-8 in a box.

I don't like the #6 here SOUTHWIND AUSTIN-When the Millers leave a trotter they usually regress.This horse shows nothing on the form which would give me the desire to use him.I thought he would be a bit shorter though...8-1 right now with 0 minutes to post.

10-5-3-8-4

My pick here just could not trot with them from the top of the stretch on.A distant fourth.

[botster]

5 SMOKE PAN MIRRORS seems logical, but odds will be low, and doesn't seem worth the short odds to me.Only eight go here scratching 9 & 10.

Passing this one.

[botster]

4 I am betting 4 CYCLONE CULLY here.I always like when trainer Carl Tirella takes over a new one.This was a big trainer change last week and this horse scored at a nice mutual, closing very well over the half at Saratoga.

[botster]

4 I am betting 4 CYCLONE CULLY here.I always like when trainer Carl Tirella takes over a new one.This was a big trainer change last week and this horse scored at a nice mutual, closing very well over the half at Saratoga.

This really is a herendous race which should help the pick here.The odds will be interesting.He could be the favorite.

2-3-7-8 with him.

[mrroyboy]

I have two for tonight.


Race 7--No 1 Sheer Desire ML 7-2

I think the switch to Tetrick should make the diferrence here.

Race 9-- No4 Blomkvist ML 7-2

Andy and Julie Miller. Horse has some fast races at Yonkers. Hope he can win of the layoff

[botster]

This really is a herendous race which should help the pick here.The odds will be interesting.He could be the favorite.

2-3-7-8 with him.

Ok..if u goes off 4-1 or better we will bet win.
Boxing in an exacta with the others.

[botster]

This really is a herendous race which should help the pick here.The odds will be interesting.He could be the favorite.

2-3-7-8 with him.

Hes the fav...lol.No win bet.

[botster]

Hes the fav...lol.No win bet.

Uncovered well beaten third at the very low odds of 5-2!!.The eight was an overlay there,but Steve Smith is tough one to play and even tougher, if I'm on one that I like...hahaha

[melman]

Nice call by Pandy in that last race Bots. His 3rd pick over his 1st pick. Top pick at 48-1. At thoese odds I can even bet Steve Smith. :) Hope Pandy picked up some cash.

[botster]

I am givving a long look at 5 SWEET TIME here.Only has 46 starts to date as a five yer old and is in good shape right now.She fits well in here with mares that don't look any better than fifteens in here.

4 YOU LITTLE RASCAL is the obvious.
3 COLLAGE is going to sale.
9 SHANA BABY on her class.
1 ARTS CHIP N GAIL should be well positioned....boxing these.

I am not a big fan of 6 LEAN BACK COCO here.This is one of my favorite horses over the last number of years,but she will be bet some and I think she has lost much of her zest for racing these days.

[botster]

Nice call by Pandy in that last race Bots. His 3rd pick over his 1st pick. Top pick at 48-1. At thoese odds I can even bet Steve Smith. :) Hope Pandy picked up some cash.

He indeed did,I see.Nice two hole trip,just what Steve Smith and the doctor ordered..lol

Hats off to Pandy!

[mrroyboy]

5 was behind dead cover. Had no shot.

[botster]

I am givving a long look at 5 SWEET TIME here.Only has 46 starts to date as a five yer old and is in good shape right now.She fits well in here with mares that don't look any better than fifteens in here.

4 YOU LITTLE RASCAL is the obvious.
3 COLLAGE is going to sale.
9 SHANA BABY on her class.
1 ARTS CHIP N GAIL should be well positioned....boxing these.

I am not a big fan of 6 LEAN BACK COCO here.This is one of my favorite horses over the last number of years,but she will be bet some and I think she has lost much of her zest for racing these days.

Wow the other sale horse bombs them here.10 GORDYS PET.6 LEANBACK COCO shows her backclass tonight digging in for second.Nice to see her do that 2nite.A very nice animal.I have alot of respect for this mare.

10-6-3-9.

The pick gets stalled behind a dead one third over and was never a factor.

[botster]

5 was behind dead cover. Had no shot.

Yes indeed Roy.

[botster]

I am unable to look this one over.Their is only two things that takes priority over horses in my life.With that being said my daughter isn't with me tonight...lol.

Good fortune with ur pick 1 SHEER DESIRE roy.I will be looking for him at the wire!!!

[botster]

I have two for tonight.


Race 7--No 1 Sheer Desire ML 7-2

I think the switch to Tetrick should make the diferrence here.

Race 9-- No4 Blomkvist ML 7-2

Andy and Julie Miller. Horse has some fast races at Yonkers. Hope he can win of the layoff

Well you got SHEER DESIRE home, but they bet him down to 3-5 I believe.

[botster]

Distractions here tonight currently...lol

Alright I don't likr the eighth.

9th 8 SWAGGER HANOVER INTERESTS ME SOME.

[botster]

8 SWAGGER HANOVER good barns can do good things for a trotter with some rest off with a trotter.This horse shows a good second in an inferior barn in a 20/30 mix back at Yonkers.This field is very vulnerable.w/1-4-5-7-10 in a box.
Win at 5-1 or better.

[botster]

8 SWAGGER HANOVER good barns can do good things for a trotter with some rest off with a trotter.This horse shows a good second in an inferior barn in a 20/30 mix back at Yonkers.This field is very vulnerable.w/1-4-5-7-10 in a box.
Win at 5-1 or better.

This pick had nothing tonight in the lane.

5-6-10-4

[botster]

Im agreeing here with the annalyst here Sam.

It seems to me like the 4 &5 need to be used.

I will go small and close it out.

4-5/1-4-5-11 straight

[u2popmart]

i been follllowing the harness races for awhile now . the only reason why is because long shots come in all the time either win or place killing bet tickets. no way to pick winners.
put your money on the place position for a few races you are sure to win one .
just posting what i been observing. no facts other than results.

[botster]

Im agreeing here with the annalyst here Sam.

It seems to me like the 4 &5 need to be used.

I will go small and close it out.

4-5/1-4-5-11 straight

I like this Carlson.He bombs them here with 3 CARRIE ANN..Bomb behind him for second too.

I lost al the bets I made tonight...I'm not going to blame it on the late distractions....No excuses!!!..hahaha

3-9-4-11

3-9 ex $3,000+...gotta love it!!!

[botster]

i been follllowing the harness races for awhile now . the only reason why is because long shots come in all the time either win or place killing bet tickets. no way to pick winners.
put your money on the place position for a few races you are sure to win one .
just posting what i been observing. no facts other than results.

Always glad to see a contributer.I have been following this game too for sometime.The harness game is on life support, because of the low mutual payouts actually.This is winter time and we always see the bigger prices this time of year.In the summer the average price will go down drasticaly.The racing will still be good here at the Meads and profits can be made.

Thanks again and good fortune :)

[u2popmart]

im trying to understand this type of racing.
dont understand how long shots can come in place so often.
there is no price indication for it. yet someone hits the tri and the exactas.
just confuse. i know most of you are been following this type of racing for awhile in some fashion. is this common?

[botster]

im trying to understand this type of racing.
dont understand how long shots can come in place so often.
there is no price indication for it. yet someone hits the tri and the exactas.
just confuse. i know most of you are been following this type of racing for awhile in some fashion. is this common?

It's just what it is my friend.I dont believe their is any rhyme or reason to anything concerning the payoffs in the win/place spot,or any other payoff spot.
I can tell you though that harness racing has always, since the early/mid 80's until the present, been dropped by many of the big bettors, because of the low payoffs all around.Their are a few big factors of course.

Have a good night.